Daniel Peterson issues a challenge.....

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informant wrote:
Rollo Tomasi wrote:Geesh, believe whatever you want. There were plenty of witnesses here and on the other bb's as to what DCP wrote about Quinn. It occurred around April/May 2006 on the old FAIR bb (I've been banned there, so I cannot do any search for you); feel free to do a search and you'll find the goods. Until then, just shut up.
i don't think you understand how this works rollo..........

see.....you made a claim that you can't back up with actual evidence.......
It happened, as many here can attest. Because I am banned, I do not have access to DCP's 2006 posts on the FAIR bb. But I'm sure you do, so knock yourself out with a search and see the evidence with your own eyes. You have access, I don't -- so the ball is in your court to find and read DCP's posts. Until then, just shut up.

informant wrote:... like the Carla Ogden fax, for example........DCP saw it and read it, why don't you believe him???????????
Actually, the so-called "second Watson letter" a.k.a. "Carla Ogden fax" was found and posted online a couple of years ago (I think by Scratch, but I'm not sure), and it was clear from the fax that DCP and his ilk had been misrepresenting the fax's contents for years, thereby shooting himself in the foot for the umpteenth time. I guess you haven't seen it -- time for you to starting getting familiar with the evidence out there and stop embarrassing yourself.
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Rollo Tomasi wrote:It happened, as many here can attest. Because I am banned, I do not have access to DCP's 2006 posts on the FAIR bb. But I'm sure you do, so knock yourself out with a search and see the evidence with your own eyes. You have access, I don't -- so the ball is in your court to find and read DCP's posts. Until then, just shut up.


that board doesn't exist.........how convenient for you eh rollo???? i guess its easy to hate someone for 8 solid years based on something you think you read on a board that no longer exists huh???

you're a real stand up guy rollo

informant wrote:Actually, the so-called "second Watson letter" a.k.a. "Carla Ogden fax" was found and posted online a couple of years ago (I think by Scratch, but I'm not sure), and it was clear from the fax that DCP and his ilk had been misrepresenting the fax's contents for years, thereby shooting himself in the foot for the umpteenth time. I guess you haven't seen it -- time for you to starting getting familiar with the evidence out there and stop embarrassing yourself.


okay then the first watson letter.......surely you must believe it existed because it meets your own standard of evidence.....DCP said he saw and read it...........so i guess you believe him right rollo?????

incidentally i just saw the ghost of emporer claudius and he says you're full of crap
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Again, this is not a post for the general public. It's simply more grist for your run-of-the-mill DCP sycophants (the only ones who buy his BS).
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informant wrote:
Rollo Tomasi wrote:It happened, as many here can attest. Because I am banned, I do not have access to DCP's 2006 posts on the FAIR bb. But I'm sure you do, so knock yourself out with a search and see the evidence with your own eyes. You have access, I don't -- so the ball is in your court to find and read DCP's posts. Until then, just shut up.
that board doesn't exist.........how convenient for you eh rollo???? i guess its easy to hate someone for 8 solid years based on something you think you read on a board that no longer exists huh???
I'm sure the archives exist somewhere -- try MAD and get back to me.

In the meantime, I did a quick search and found the following thread from this bb discussing DCP's "gossipmongering" about Quinn (my comments are on the second page of the thread):

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1736

informant wrote:okay then the first watson letter.......surely you must believe it existed because it meets your own standard of evidence.....DCP said he saw and read it...........so i guess you believe him right rollo?????
I've also seen and read the first Watson letter online (it is very well known). The "second" so-called letter (which turned out to be the Carla Ogden fax) was only read and discussed by DCP and his minions; conveniently, none had a copy of the letter -- they only represented what it said. Then, when the fax was secretly leaked online, we all discovered what was already suspected: DCP's heavy reliance on the "second" Watson letter was completely misplaced and had been misrepresented, and he was mightly embarrassed.

informant wrote:incidentally i just saw the ghost of emporer claudius and he says you're full of crap
I don't need a ghost or anyone else to tell me you're full of crap -- you're doing it all by yourself.

And, please, learn to type -- your typos and grammatical errors are making you look even more stupid.
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Rollo Tomasi wrote:I'm sure the archives exist somewhere -- try MAD and get back to me.


no....you made the claim.........its you're responsibility to back it up or shut up

In the meantime, I did a quick search and found the following thread from this bb discussing DCP's "gossipmongering" about Quinn (my comments are on the second page of the thread):

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... f=1&t=1736


a bunch of conjecturing and you saying "i don't buy it"--and that's evidence????? on that thread DCP specifically stated he had nothing to do with it so whats your point??? by your own standard of evidence you must believe him.....

informant wrote:I've also seen and read the first Watson letter online (it is very well known). The "second" so-called letter (which turned out to be the Carla Ogden fax) was only read and discussed by DCP and his minions; conveniently, none had a copy of the letter -- they only represented what it said. Then, when the fax was secretly leaked online, we all discovered what was already suspected: DCP's heavy reliance on the "second" Watson letter was completely misplaced and had been misrepresented, and he was mightly embarrassed.


why did it have to be secretly leaked??? DCP said he saw and read it..................by your own standard of evidence you must accept that as truth!!!!

informant wrote:And, please, learn to type -- your typos and grammatical errors are making you look even more stupid.


please learn to back up claims that you make.......especially when they concerning destroying the real life reputation of someone else, dick
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I like all the question markes and exclamation points.

The truth is that Dr. Peterson was reporting on what was already publicly known about Dr. Quinn, who had "outed" himself before Dr. Peterson commented upon it to a stake president. Dr. Quinn had, as far as I could tell (because I was there) outed himself at an MHA conference.

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I would say that DCPs treatment of Eric was cruel. That message that was posted recently on the board that DCP sent another board member out of the blue just to gossip cruelly against Eric.

Cruel.
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just me wrote:I would say that DCPs treatment of Eric was cruel. That message that was posted recently on the board that DCP sent another board member out of the blue just to gossip cruelly against Eric.

Cruel.


You don't really know what was going on there.

Eric came on this board as an adult. He gave better than he got. There were posters, other than Dr. Peterson and myself, who criticized him and the horse upon which he rode. I wonder how he is doing in his lawsuit.
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Yahoo Bot wrote:The truth is that Dr. Peterson was reporting on what was already publicly known about Dr. Quinn, who had "outed" himself before Dr. Peterson commented upon it to a stake president. Dr. Quinn had, as far as I could tell (because I was there) outed himself at an MHA conference.


Sure, Bob. Sure. :wink:
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Yahoo Bot wrote:
just me wrote:I would say that DCPs treatment of Eric was cruel. That message that was posted recently on the board that DCP sent another board member out of the blue just to gossip cruelly against Eric.

Cruel.


You don't really know what was going on there.

Eric came on this board as an adult. He gave better than he got. There were posters, other than Dr. Peterson and myself, who criticized him and the horse upon which he rode.


Sure, Bob. Sure. :wink:
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