FAIR Conference Highlights: DCP & Hamblin Slam B. Hodges

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Re: FAIR Conference Highlights: DCP & Hamblin Slam B. Hodges

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Kishkumen wrote:LOL. Yes, I have received similar messages from classic-FARMS scholars. One emailed me to ask me to consider what it would feel like to have one of them contact my department chairman or dean about my activities on this board. Of course, he assured me, this was not a threat.

:lol:

Kish,

As an indication of how the Mormon Church is viewed down here (Boca), I was just thinking that any outside contact with my company regarding my activities on MDB would be just as likely to result in a board resolution for a small bonus as in any disciplinary action.
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"There is beauty all around, when there's love at home." LDS Hymn

If Hamblin's account is true and accurate (both rather slippery terms as used by Hamblin and his cabal of brothers), Hamblin's post is an indictment against the 'Happy Valley' veneer and charade that is supposed to be the result of LDS living. On the other hand, if Hamblin has taken liberties with the truth--and anyone that knows Hamblin's track record would surely suspect that--then Hamblin's post is an indictment against the 'Happy Valley' veneer and charade that is supposed to be the result of LDS living.

Thanks, Hambone, for another lose-lose for the LDS cause from your posting.
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DrW wrote:Kish,

As an indication of how the Mormon Church is viewed down here (Boca), I was just thinking that any outside contact with my company regarding my activities on MDB would be just as likely to result in a board resolution for a small bonus as in any disciplinary action.
:wink:


I recall when one of them phoned a university student's department chairman to complain about his blogging activities. I should have known they would find a way to surprise me.

I don't think he received a bonus, but I don't think any punishment resulted either.
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True enough. And, I don't think I said otherwise.


Oh I know, I was just saying that when it comes down to taking one person's word over another's, the "who has an ax to grind?" question shouldn't really be asked because as far as I can tell, they all have one of those. It is disturbing, though, that someone has to be lying in this situation.

Yes, he probably hasn't. That said, Bill Hamblin was the person who misrepresented the Kofford Books panel on the relevance on scripture. That was the most recent source of disagreement between David and Bill. And, in my view Bill is clearly at fault.


Oh, no doubt about that. But we've come to expect that kind of thing from the DCP/Hamblin duo. Did we expect this from Team Kofford?

Well, we don't know that Blair called them all cowards.


True enough. However, one of the other Kofford Musketeers, Loyd Ericson, most certainly did.

According to Kramer, Blair called DCP a coward for not answering his query about the Kirk Caudle post forthrightly


Yes, and this will probably come down to a "he said/he said" situation, which really misses the point as far as I'm concerned. It doesn't really make much of a difference to me how many people he called a coward.

As for Bokovoy's post on Muhlstein, I applaud it. I think it's great.


As do I, however I think David needs to be careful because I'm fairly certain Ritner would consider David's scholarship every bit the "apologetic" variety that David categorizes Muhlstein's.

Agreed, to a point. I am not sure that DCP and Hamblin's reports of Blair making a scene are accurate. Frankly, I don't trust either one of them. If they say someone else made a scene, my first impulse would be to question their accuracy. I have so infrequently agreed with their assessment of anything.


Well, I don't trust any of them, except for Bokovoy and Hauglid.
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Abaddon wrote:Hahaha.

This is why I keep reading and staying up to date on Mormon happenings: it's just so dang entertaining.



So very true.
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Kirk Caudle wrote:First off, whether or not this exchange actually happened or is 100% actuate is totally besides the point.

What is the point? That Bill would even make something like this into a blog post in the first place.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how Kirk Caudle won the Internetz.
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"Go to Hell!"

"Coward!"

Bet exchanges like this can be heard everyday in the FAIR Bookstore, especially in the NYC and Philadelphia branches.

Sounds like Professor Hamblin is being an agent provocateur. So he hates the new Maxwell and all associated about it. Can you blame him? He gave the best hachet wielding days of his life to the former regime at that place.
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sock puppet wrote:"There is beauty all around, when there's love at home." LDS Hymn

If Hamblin's account is true and accurate (both rather slippery terms as used by Hamblin and his cabal of brothers), Hamblin's post is an indictment against the 'Happy Valley' veneer and charade that is supposed to be the result of LDS living. On the other hand, if Hamblin has taken liberties with the truth--and anyone that knows Hamblin's track record would surely suspect that--then Hamblin's post is an indictment against the 'Happy Valley' veneer and charade that is supposed to be the result of LDS living.

Thanks, Hambone, for another lose-lose for the LDS cause from your posting.


Remember when Hamblin said Peterson received death threats, and the Peterson responded "strictly speaking" he had not received death threats? The difference with this situation is that Peterson has agreed to Hamblin's version of the retelling.
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