Grant Palmer is attacked by Brian Hales and Gregory L. Smith

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[_Yahoo Bot]

I think that Van Wagoner's is of more concern BUT... Mike Quinn doesn't think so, so that is enough for me.

Interesting.

Van Wagoner's plagiarism is enough to keep him out of many universities as a teacher or researcher. Had it been done while a graduate student at most universities he would have been expelled.

Again, it is interesting that you would think that it is somewhat relevant what Quinn thinks. Quinn would never even come close to doing such a thing as Van Wagoner has done. (And Will Bagley has done. I'm going to start a separate thread on Bagley; if I get to it.)

[_suniluni2]

I think that Van Wagoner's is of more concern BUT... Mike Quinn doesn't think so, so that is enough for me.

Interesting.

Van Wagoner's plagiarism is enough to keep him out of many universities as a teacher or researcher. Had it been done while a graduate student at most universities he would have been expelled.

Again, it is interesting that you would think that it is somewhat relevant what Quinn thinks. Quinn would never even come close to doing such a thing as Van Wagoner has done. (And Will Bagley has done. I'm going to start a separate thread on Bagley; if I get to it.)

I enjoy your critical comments on various subjects. I look forward to the day when you will use your obviously sharp mind and skills of reason and logic on all subjects equally and not give passes where your bias dictates.

[_Yahoo Bot]

I enjoy your critical comments on various subjects. I look forward to the day when you will use your obviously sharp mind and skills of reason and logic on all subjects equally and not give passes where your bias dictates.

The reason it appears I don't spend as much effort tearing apart apologetic absurdities as I do ripping into anti-Mormon venom is that the latter seems to urged by folks with mush for brains. In large part. Kevin Graham, I'm referring to you.

[_grindael]

The reason it appears I don't spend as much effort tearing apart apologetic absurdities as I do ripping into anti-Mormon venom is that the latter seems to urged by folks with mush for brains. In large part. Kevin Graham, I'm referring to you.

Did you mean "to be urged by"? And "mush for brains"? C'mon 'Bot, I lived through the sixties and went to Woodstock '69. Functioning with a mush brain has been an essential part of my life for years...

[_Yahoo Bot]

The reason it appears I don't spend as much effort tearing apart apologetic absurdities as I do ripping into anti-Mormon venom is that the latter seems to urged by folks with mush for brains. In large part. Kevin Graham, I'm referring to you.

Did you mean "to be urged by"? And "mush for brains"? C'mon 'Bot, I lived through the sixties and went to Woodstock '69. Functioning with a mush brain has been an essential part of my life for years...

A fellow in my ward tried to get me to go to Woodstock. A 16-year-old wouldn't have survived there. But I did pass on Altamont.

[_grindael]

A fellow in my ward tried to get me to go to Woodstock. A 16-year-old wouldn't have survived there. But I did pass on Altamont.

I was twelve. And all I remember is mud and bad music and no bathrooms. I was raised on my Mom's Elvis Presley records...

[_Kevin Graham]

I enjoy your critical comments on various subjects. I look forward to the day when you will use your obviously sharp mind and skills of reason and logic on all subjects equally and not give passes where your bias dictates.

The reason it appears I don't spend as much effort tearing apart apologetic absurdities as I do ripping into anti-Mormon venom is that the latter seems to urged by folks with mush for brains. In large part. Kevin Graham, I'm referring to you.

Given the incoherence of your remark, I have to assume you're just trying to be funny again. If the latter is urged by folks with mush for brains, and you prefer the latter, then you must have mush for brains.

Having said that, I think we all know the real reason why you choose to refrain from "tearing apart apologetic absurdities." It has more to do with loyalty to the tribe and a dash of hypocrisy.

By the way, when are you going to stop hating on Muslims and why do you keep using a pseudonym? Tired of getting kicked off of various message boards for your hostile behavior?

[_Tator]

A fellow in my ward tried to get me to go to Woodstock. A 16-year-old wouldn't have survived there. But I did pass on Altamont.

I was twelve. And all I remember is mud and bad music and no bathrooms. I was raised on my Mom's Elvis Presley records...

I would trade you Hank Williams, Tex Ritter, Gene Autry for Elvis Presley. I was 6 in 1958 and I remember putting pennies in a gum machine and getting "Love me tender", "Nothing but a hounddog" Elvis pin on buttons that are selling for 30 to 50 dollars on ebay today.

Sorry for the derail, your mom raised you good.

[_Yahoo Bot]

Given the incoherence of your remark, I have to assume you're just trying to be funny again. If the latter is urged by folks with mush for brains, and you prefer the latter, then you must have mush for brains.

Hmm. My point was made.

Having said that, I think we all know the real reason why you choose to refrain from "tearing apart apologetic absurdities." It has more to do with loyalty to the tribe and a dash of hypocrisy.

I've never said I've "refrained" from tearing apart apologetic absurdities. Indeed, I do it all the time. I am not welcomed at the other board and am always on the verge of being kicked off.

why do you keep using a pseudonym

Can you not click on my signature line link?

By the way, when are you going to stop hating on Muslims and why do you keep using a pseudonym? Tired of getting kicked off of various message boards for your hostile behavior?

I trust Muslims more than Christians, in general. However, the Muslims I know tend to be doctors, lawyers and businessmen.

Let's revisit your past. At http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/29222 you said:

You really believe this baloney? Islam is an anti-intellectual religion, and the only reason it grows is because of massive breeding. That's right. Muslims generally produce 2 to 6 times the offspring of average "Christian" countries. This is established fact that cannot be dismissed. As far as Islam growing in America, it is due to the same reason they grow in France, Egypt and every other Muslim country. Out of control BREEDING.

Islam has been in America for decades, yet how many blue-eyed blonde-haired Muslims do I know or come across? ... Virtually every Muslim public figure is a semite or Asian, who immigrated here, or whose parents immigrated here. Muslims rallies at Universities or in the streets, take a gander in the crowd and what do you see? Same result. The only reason you are Muslim is because of chance - you were born into it. Everyone I know who converts is typically doing it as a fad - just like hinduism and new age became a fad in Univesities during teh 60's and 70's- and are typically grounding their reasons in a bunch of fantasy as to what they think Islam really is.

One must generally be born into this religion in order to accept its nonsensical ideology you humorously refer to as "logic." If it is so logical why it is that the majority of true "converts" in America are in our prison system?

Its only solid "doctrine" is that there is one God (borrowed from Judaism, hardly innovative) and Muhammed is his apostle...today it is overly simplistic and offers no decent way of life to 21st centurie societies; nothing to offer AT ALL, other than sharia, which is a primitive and barbaric system of law that only those who sprouted from the primitive cultures of the Middle-East could appreciate.

So keep pretending Islam is such an appealing faith and growing through conversions. It began as a faith that boomed trhough massacres and forced conversions either by the sword or dhimmitude persuasion, and now it is simply a baby factory.

Or there's this more recent stuff: https://www.Facebook.com/kevin.graham.3 ... 5710806191.

I speak the truth in exposing evil.
I will be the first to confront evil while covered in the Blood of Yeshua!!
I Pray that you and ALL muslims come to the realization that what you worship is pure evil.

And don't miss Graham's anti-Muslim Twitter diatribes against President Obama, one of the few true family men and honest men in the Oval Office since Teddy Roosevelt.

In the past, Graham has argued that the Crusades were justified -- the wholesale slaughter of Jews and Muslims, the violence at Acre -- all justified.

Of course, Muslims are among the few people in the world who worship the one true God.

Folks, this is Kevin Graham, who has gone by "Red" Graham in the past. He triumphs here. I hope you appreciate him. He is one of you. You give him a pass.

Other than that, I like him and applaud his efforts despite being apostrophe-challenged. I wonder why folk's insist upon using apostrophe's to signal a plural? Odd.