Uchtdorf and McConkie on Grace.

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Re: Uchtdorf and McConkie on Grace.

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Jersey Girl wrote:Hang the hell on, Rock.


pretty wacky huh ... just some change that came quickly upon me. My head cleared of the chemo haze that has lingered.

Talk of reproduction, Uchtdof, Jersey Girl, grace, ceeboo's damn friendly cow liking my face ... must be a circuit overload
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RockSlider wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:Hang the hell on, Rock.


pretty wacky huh ... just some change that came quickly upon me. My head cleared of the chemo haze that has lingered.

Talk of reproduction, Uchtdof, Jersey Girl, grace, ceeboo's damn friendly cow liking my face ... must be a circuit overload


Wacky? Wacky? Are you drinking while you're talking to me?

Wacky? What you said was offensive as hell.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
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Re: Uchtdorf and McConkie on Grace.

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Hey again IHAQ! :smile:

I have a question wrote:
I'll let you have the last word....


Great, because the more I read, the more convinced I am that we have - and will surely continue to have - enormous challenges in engaging each other. Please consider that while I am fairly certain that this is the case with us, I do not assign blame to anyone for this unfortunate mountain-of-an-obstacle we have in front of us - it simply is what it is and although not that common, it happens on these boards.


Just tell me how you are defining 'good' (your word choice) and we can move on.


I don't have the time, energy or desire to write out a 19 page post in an attempt to satisfy your question about "good" for several reasons. (Yes, considering how far apart we are right now, it would take me at least 19 full pages to explain my position/perspective)

A mere couple of them are:

1. I don't think you would understand my (the) position any better if I did extend the enormous effort.

2. Considering the walls of text that I already posted in this thread - and considering that after you read them, your top two take aways (A and B below) were/are so completely bizarre to me and so clearly the exact opposite of what my wall of text suggested, I have no confidence it would do any good (Yes! I used the word good again) :smile:

A. "Ceeboo was exhorting us to work towards being good"

B. "It really shouldn't be a difficult question, for the person stating their God wants us to try to be good, to answer"

So, please understand that I'm not very enthusiastic or encouraged to continue our exchanges.

So instead of a 19 page encyclopedia, I offer only a few words.

Context is everything!

in my opinion You have it all bass-ackwards! All of it!

No matter how "good" you are (you can define good anyway you like - it doesn't matter one bit how it's defined or who defines it. We all fall short - We are all broken - We all have vices/struggles/anger/jealousy/selfishness/etc/etc.
At the end of the day - we, as human beings all fail miserably and then when a new day appears - we continue to fail some more.

That is the end of my few words.

Thank you for trying to have an exchange with me - It is why I come and enjoy these boards - unfortunately (for both of us in my opinion) we aren't connecting at all and I am sorry for my part in that.

Peace and best wishes, IHAQ. :smile:

Your never-again pastor, :lol:
Ceeboo
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Jersey Girl wrote:Wacky? Wacky? Are you drinking while you're talking to me?
Wacky? What you said was offensive as hell.


ok, ok ... Sorry ceeboo about insulting your cow

eta: and in no way does that have any implications to other unnamed infertile females.
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Re: Uchtdorf and McConkie on Grace.

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Hey Ceeboo,

dumb guy Catholic question ... is pastor/father synonymous.
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Re: Uchtdorf and McConkie on Grace.

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Hey Rock!

I hope you are well, friend! :smile:

:smile:
RockSlider wrote:Hey Ceeboo,

... is pastor/father synonymous.


I don't think so!

Pastor is an ordained leader of a congregation (Protestant)

Father is a Catholic thing - many meanings - one that goes back to the Early Church Fathers (Polycarp, Clemens, Ignatious, Etc - they were teachers/Fathers) but there is also a connection with Pope - Papa - Father as in a Catholic Priest.

For instance, when I was Catholic - everyone called our Priest Father Jerry. I never heard him called Pastor Jerry


I Think! But I'm not sure.

Peace,
Ceeboo
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Ceeboo wrote:For instance, when I was Catholic


I thought you were Catholic .... I did not realize were was past tense.

sorry about that ... carry on
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Re: Uchtdorf and McConkie on Grace.

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RockSlider wrote:
I thought you were Catholic .... I did not realize were was past tense.


I left about 4-5 years ago. All is great though.

sorry about that ... carry on


No need to be sorry.
No worries!

Peace,
Ceeboo
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Re: Uchtdorf and McConkie on Grace.

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well, mdb has its own prophet, I don't think you should be able to get out of pastor so easily.
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Re: Uchtdorf and McConkie on Grace.

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RockSlider wrote:well, mdb has its own prophet, I don't think you should be able to get out of pastor so easily.


I would be honored and most humbled to continue being the MDB Pastor. I just can't be IHAQ's Pastor any longer.

Peace,
Rock's Pastor
Ceeboo
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