UFOs

[_grindael]

Sorry Tobin, but you've clearly been duped, and perhaps anally probed...

[_Some Schmo]

I don't think Tobin was ever anally probed. I believe what happened is that they mistook his ass for his face and shoved the probe down his throat. Unfortunately, with the energy coming off that thing so close to his brain cavity, it fried him a little... well, more than a little.

[_Gunnar]

I don't think Tobin was ever anally probed. I believe what happened is that they mistook his ass for his face and shoved the probe down his throat. Unfortunately, with the energy coming off that thing so close to his brain cavity, it fried him a little... well, more than a little.

Even that is no crazier than the story Tobin tells.

[_Tobin]

Even that is no crazier than the story Tobin tells.

Really? How about the immaculate conception of Jesus Christ? That is some crazy crap huh? I'm sure you belittle Christians all the time about it don't you? What a pathetic loser you are Gunnar.

[_Gunnar]

Even that is no crazier than the story Tobin tells.

Really? How about the immaculate conception of Jesus Christ? That is some crazy s*** huh? I'm sure you belittle Christians all the time about it don't you? What a pathetic loser you are Gunnar.

I doubt that you believe in the immaculate conception of Jesus Christ any more than I do. How would your advanced space aliens have accomplished that, and why would they have wanted to?

[_Tobin]

I doubt that you believe in the immaculate conception of Jesus Christ any more than I do. How would your advanced space aliens have accomplished that, and why would they have wanted to?

Of course I don't believe in the immaculate conception of Jesus Christ. I also don't continually harass Christians about their personal belief in it, especially when they don't bring it up. No where in this thread have I brought up my experience. Yet you felt the need to harass me about what I personally experienced.

[_moksha]

2) It may be very possible that human-beings have been abducted from our world and taken elsewhere. It may of been with or without their consent.

This could help explain the sudden disappearance of Bcspace. Let's hope those aliens are gentle with their probes.

[_Tarski]

If just one advanced civilization arose a billion years ago in our own galaxy, they would have easily explored every world in our galaxy and done so long ago. If advanced life exists, it is most definitely is here observing us.

BS.

1) You vastly vastly underestimate the number of cubic parsecs in our galaxy.
I think I should have inserted a few more instances of the word "vastly" in that sentence.


(Just focusing radio telescopes in every possible direction is trouble enough even for an advanced species and that is just an issue of spherical area rather than volume.)

2) You vastly underestimate the resources, both physical and economic, needed just to visit a few distant locations.

3) There is no reason to think another species, even if intelligent, will be any wiser or less violent and political than we are and we will almost certainly destroy ourselves before we even put more than a few people (if any) on mars. I predict that chaos, dislocation, starvation and break down of societies due to a combination of climate changes and radical political and religious violence will make even returning to the moon unlikely. (Sorry)

Drake's so called equation not withstanding, I see it this way: If there is life out there, it is probably well adapted without even needing fully extendable grammatically flexible language as are all of the other millions of species on the planet. If there are language using creatures out there with advanced technology, they are almost certainly violent, self-destructive, stupid, and ideologically at war with themselves. Language isn't that great of a trick in the long run as far as sheer survival. It causes more problems than it solves.

I have yet to hear even a remotely practical or realistic way to overcome just the issues with things such as payload and radiation just to get us to mars and the probable psychological obstacles are also probably far greater than most people imagine.

Science fiction is a poor guide to the future. If it were, we would have flying cars already rather than iphones and internet porn.

[_Tobin]

If just one advanced civilization arose a billion years ago in our own galaxy, they would have easily explored every world in our galaxy and done so long ago. If advanced life exists, it is most definitely is here observing us.

b***s***.

1) You vastly vastly underestimate the number of cubic parsecs in our galaxy.
I think I should have inserted a few more instances of the word "vastly" in that sentence.


(Just focusing radio telescopes in every possible direction is trouble enough even for an advanced species and that is just an issue of spherical area rather than volume.)

LOL That is absurd. You think an intelligent species would just wander aimlessly exploring our galaxy? That is the only way your comment makes the least possible sense about the "difficulty" of exploring the vastness of our galaxy in cubic parsecs.

2) You vastly underestimate the resources, both physical and economic, needed just to visit a few distant locations.

Oh, they are now trapped using our level of technology? Why would they be flying around using chemical rockets?

3) There is no reason to think another species, even if intelligent, will be any wiser or less violent and political than we are and we will almost certainly destroy ourselves before we even put more than a few people (if any) on mars. I predict that chaos, dislocation, starvation and break down of societies due to a combination of climate changes and radical political and religious violence will make even returning to the moon unlikely. (Sorry)

Wow, you are a real optimist. I sure hope none of your predictions come true.

Drake's so called equation not withstanding, I see it this way: If there is life out there, it is probably well adapted without even needing fully extendable grammatically flexible language as are all of the other millions of species on the planet. If there are language using creatures out there with advanced technology, they are almost certainly violent, self-destructive, stupid, and ideologically at war with themselves. Language isn't that great of a trick in the long run as far as sheer survival. It causes more problems than it solves.

More optimism from our friend Tarski condemning all advanced species to oblivion. ROFL

I have yet to hear even a remotely practical or realistic way to overcome just the issues with things such as payload and radiation just to get us to mars and the probable psychological obstacles are also probably far greater than most people imagine.

Here is one. Maybe not all advanced species are as stupid as we are and have a few less naysayers/pessimists.

Science fiction is a poor guide to the future. If it were, we would have flying cars already rather than iphones and internet porn.

I really doubt that the vast majority of scientists that believe that advanced life exists in our universe are engaging in purely science fiction. But if you feel passionately about it, maybe you should seek to have SETI shutdown.

[_Tarski]

If you were right, they would have been here by your own logic and it would be obvious. But they haven't.

To put it another way, the very fact that there are no alien visitors is strong evidence that I am right. On the other hand you have no evidence of visitation or any other of your scifi religious fantasies. Evidence against no evidence, I win.