The Scientology Cult..... Movie.... Good stuff!
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No, not according to Interacting with Cults: A Policing Model (FBI Law Enforcemnt Bulletin - Sep 1, 2000 by Adam Szubin, Carl J. Jensen III, and Rod Gregg). According to this source, a "cult" has nothing to do with "...a group that crosses the moral and law abiding line, i.e. how Law Enforcement would classify a cult."
That makes you a lying liar who tells lies.
That makes you a lying liar who tells lies.
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ldsfaqs wrote:I'm referring to the actual traditional definition, which refers to a group that crosses the moral and law abiding line, i.e. how Law Enforcement would classify a cult.
So how does Law Enforcement classify a cult?
(and I'm expecting references, which you won't provide, because you can't provide anything that supports your ongoing drivel)
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I have a question wrote:ldsfaqs wrote:I'm referring to the actual traditional definition, which refers to a group that crosses the moral and law abiding line, i.e. how Law Enforcement would classify a cult.
So how does Law Enforcement classify a cult?
(and I'm expecting references, which you won't provide, because you can't provide anything that supports your ongoing drivel)
You are utterly boring.....
This is essentially how Law Enforcement and anyone with objectivity classify's a cult. (Scientology would apply, Mormonism doesn't).
http://www.criminaljusticeschoolinfo.co ... aders.html
"Destructive cults exhibit an excessive dedication to some person, idea, or thing and employ unethically manipulative techniques of persuasion and control designed to advance the goals of the group leaders and ideology, to the actual or possible detriment of members, their families, or the community,".... These types of groups are generally founded or directed by one or several charismatic leaders.
Members are persuaded through deception (i.e. about what the group's goals actually are) and through isolation from loved ones. Followers eventually learn not to question the validity of anything they are taught and become undeniably loyal to and dependent on the group. Their personalities can be drastically altered. ....followers of destructive cults usually suffer, to some degree, some form of harm, whether it is psychological, economical, spiritual, intellectual and/or physical.
Although we tend to think of cults as being based on religious beliefs (such as Jim Jones' Peoples Temple, David Koresh's Branch Davidians and to some extent the Manson family), some cults are based on other types of ideology. For example, there are political cults (Nazism is often compared to occultism and Hitler is considered to have been very charismatic), commercial cults (Amway is often cited as an example), self help or counseling cults (some have stated Friends Landing is an example) and more.
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And you are utterly lying.ldsfaqs wrote:You are utterly boring.....
No, this is not "essentially how" law enforcement defines a cult. Did you even bother to read your own link? Apparently not.ldsfaqs wrote:This is essentially how Law Enforcement and anyone with objectivity classify's a cult.
No--according to your own link (which you didn't bother to read) Scientology and Mormonism are both cults.ldsfaqs wrote:(Scientology would apply, Mormonism doesn't).
See for yourself: http://www.criminaljusticeschoolinfo.co ... aders.html
But on the other hand, you'd probably be better off studying the correlation between police impersonators and serial offenders...
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You are a mental and moral reject.....
1. If I didn't read the page, how did I quote contents of it which answers the question?
2. I actually studied Criminal Justice as my first career choice, and prior to that I spent my entire life since the age of 7 years old preparing to go into Law Enforcement and be the best at it, thus I started early observing human behavior and studying ideology's, good and evil, etc., and I've worked with several law enforcement related and otherwise ageny's, so I actually KNOW far more about Law Enforcement than you clearly do.
3. Further, when various Law Enforcement agency's used to have their cult "listings" Mormonism was not included as one of them (they may have been in the 1800's and early 1900's with some agency's, but they weren't the last 50 at least years in the listings that were more clear and professional based).
So, as we see yet again who the actual "liar" is.
1. If I didn't read the page, how did I quote contents of it which answers the question?
2. I actually studied Criminal Justice as my first career choice, and prior to that I spent my entire life since the age of 7 years old preparing to go into Law Enforcement and be the best at it, thus I started early observing human behavior and studying ideology's, good and evil, etc., and I've worked with several law enforcement related and otherwise ageny's, so I actually KNOW far more about Law Enforcement than you clearly do.
3. Further, when various Law Enforcement agency's used to have their cult "listings" Mormonism was not included as one of them (they may have been in the 1800's and early 1900's with some agency's, but they weren't the last 50 at least years in the listings that were more clear and professional based).
So, as we see yet again who the actual "liar" is.
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The Erotic Apologist wrote:No, this is not "essentially how" law enforcement defines a cult. Did you even bother to read your own link? Apparently not.
Not to put a too fine a point on it, but he read it. He didn't understand what he read.
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ldsfaqs wrote:2. I actually studied Criminal Justice as my first career choice, and prior to that I spent my entire life since the age of 7 years old preparing to go into Law Enforcement and be the best at it, thus I started early observing human behavior and studying ideology's, good and evil, etc., and I've worked with several law enforcement related and otherwise ageny's, so I actually KNOW far more about Law Enforcement than you clearly do.
3. Further, when various Law Enforcement agency's used to have their cult "listings" Mormonism was not included as one of them (they may have been in the 1800's and early 1900's with some agency's, but they weren't the last 50 at least years in the listings that were more clear and professional based).
So, as we see yet again who the actual "liar" is.
No wonder you failed so miserably at your "first career choice". As someone who has been offered jobs with several Law enforcement agencies, its easy for me to see why nobody would hire you. You would be a huge liability to any agency that picked you up and im guessing you wouldn't make it past the psych evaluation. Also, you have proven yourself to be a very dishonest and incapable of any kind of introspection which would immediately become apparent in any interview and/or background check...
Anyway, please provide a list that any law enforcement agency uses to identify cults...I also like how you contradict yourself in the same sentence...lol:
"Further, when various Law Enforcement agency's used to have their cult "listings" Mormonism was not included as one of them (they may have been in the 1800's and early 1900's with some agency's, but they weren't the last 50 at least years in the listings that were more clear and professional based)."
I'm guessing you probably wouldn't pass any agencies written exam either....
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Speaking of cults, just a couple quotes from Bruce McConkie (after the revelation that blacks could join the priesthood) and George Orwell, defining the world blackwhite in the Doublespeak of 1984:
Bruce McConkie wrote:It doesn't make a particle of difference what anybody ever said about the Negro matter before the first day of June 1978. It is a new day and a new arrangement, and the Lord has now given the revelation that sheds light out into the world on this subject. As to any slivers of light or any particles of darkness of the past, we forget about them.
George Orwell wrote:The keyword here is blackwhite... Applied to a Party member, it means a loyal willingness to say that black is white when Party discipline demands this. But it means also the ability to believe that black is white, and more, to know that black is white, and to forget that one has ever believed the contrary. This demands a continuous alteration of the past, made possible by the system of thought which really embraces all the rest, and which is known in Newspeak as doublethink. Doublethink is basically the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.
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Jersey Girl wrote:The Erotic Apologist wrote:No, this is not "essentially how" law enforcement defines a cult. Did you even bother to read your own link? Apparently not.
Not to put a too fine a point on it, but he read it. He didn't understand what he read.

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ldsfaqs wrote:You are a mental and moral reject.....
1. If I didn't read the page, how did I quote contents of it which answers the question?



It's funny that you should mention this, because I've spent my entire life studying various Klingon martial arts in order to fight injustice and defend the oppressed. I like to wear a mask and carve the Klingon blood-runeldsfaqs wrote:2. I actually studied Criminal Justice as my first career choice, and prior to that I spent my entire life since the age of 7 years old preparing to go into Law Enforcement and be the best at it, thus I started early observing human behavior and studying ideology's, good and evil, etc., and I've worked with several law enforcement related and otherwise ageny's, so I actually KNOW far more about Law Enforcement than you clearly do.

(Incidentally,

I must say I'm extremely impressed with how well you've been able to count to three without any mistakes. Keep up the good work!ldsfaqs wrote:3. Further, when various Law Enforcement agency's used to have their cult "listings" Mormonism was not included as one of them (they may have been in the 1800's and early 1900's with some agency's, but they weren't the last 50 at least years in the listings that were more clear and professional based).
Who's this "we" you keep referring to? Do you have more than one person living inside your head? Do they talk to you? Do the voices tell you to do strange and unnatural things like go out and get a job? Do they tell you bathe regularly and not eat so many jelly doughnuts? Do they tell you not to rant about the international Jewish banking conspiracy at random strangers? Do they tell you to stop throwing your poop at the nice lady who only wants to give you your Thorazine? Maybe the voices are only trying to help you--have you ever thought about that?ldsfaqs wrote:So, as we see yet again who the actual "liar" is.
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