Ugo Perego and the Case of the Missing DNA
Re: Ugo Perego and the Case of the Missing DNA
Since DNA Science has told us that a few Groups of Israelites did not come and ended up "inserting" themselves into the Native Mesoamerica Population before Columbus, DNA Science should be able to tell us if Josephine Rosetta Lyon Fisher was Joseph Smith's biological daughter or not.
"And I've said it before, you want to know what Joseph Smith looked like in Nauvoo, just look at Trump." - Fence Sitter
Re: Ugo Perego and the Case of the Missing DNA
ok, so you had your work ethic before you joined the church, then you retained the same work ethic after you became anti-Mormon, then you used that work ethic to restudy and become a Mormon again.
How is it that you, as an anti-Mormon, did not have the work ethic to quit? could it be that you are stereotyping? Or are you the bigot?[/quote]
Not sure I understand the question, but if I do, I did quit.
I became anti-mormon and anti-religion, thought I knew it all like the rest of you.
The difference between us is that I stopped being anti-mormon and anti-religion because I realized it was a "thought stopper" to actual learning and understanding, as well that it was attacking the very good things in the world I most wanted to understand, truth and right, or what was true and right. Because no matter how "smart" the anti-religious think they are, there is no question that the religious are better people than you. Period.
As to those who "don't quit", people like grindael, Bret Metcalf, other big anti-mormons, (wether ever in the church or not) etc. they are the very small exceptions to the rule, they are the "prophets" for most of the rest of anti-mormons. They don't do what they do to know the truth, they do it because they think they know the truth and/or they want to destroy Mormonism.
I've always said I'm a bigot against liars and bigots.
I don't believe in the Catholic Church, Protestantism, etc., but I don't have to lie about them if I even have the need to be critical of something.
Yet, anti-mormons lie in nearly everything they say. Yes, some of the "facts" they use aren't lies, but their conclsions almost always are.
Just look at the FAIR website.
They now have this cool truth meter on some articles which shows what percentage of anti-mormon claims in an article are actually the truth and facts.
One MormonThink article for example only had 14% of what they said as being the truth and factual.
The rest 86% of what MormonThink stated was outright lies, misrepresentations, and mistakes.
Most of that was also simply facts, not simply "conclusions". If we take most anti-mormon "conclusions" in general on any given subject, the percentage is even much lower. Like, I've also said that around 99% of what anti-mormons claim is false. I'm of course speaking of their conclusions.
So, in contrast, I nor anyone actually objective and fair (not a bigot) doesn't do that to the subjects we may not agree with.
I mean holy donkey crap...... that is insane to us..... We simply take what people believe, and then give our views on them. We don't distort, misrepresent, falsely degrade, use unfair comparisons, use double standards, etc. etc. that anti-mormons do.
But anti-mormonism does. So, that means anti-mormonism is from evil, not truth, fairness, objectivity, and simple disagreement.
Let me give you an example.....
Really the only "book" the Church has published on "other religions" is the Institute of Religion book "World Religions".
If you read that book, it's no different than if you were reading an Encyclopedia on the subject. Not a single ounce of anti-religionism in it.
It does compare and contrast, but it only takes what the religions say they believe and claim.
Or, let's look at Mormon authors. Whenever they have made a book or website on a subject, they again, simply compare and contrast, they don't misrepresent anything. Of course, people being human, there might be the RARE mistake, or most often, a particular religious group may not look at an issue the exact way presented, while others do (after all there are a million flavors of Evangelicals etc., many interpreting some things differently) so you can't please them all, but the LDS scholar does their best. Anyway, whatever rare mistake, it's no where near the amount of falsehoods and misrepresentations in an anti-mormon book.
Fair used to have critics on the God Makers, and maybe a couple of other books.
I know they've critiqued various websites and videos. Take the "Joseph Smith vs. Jesus Christ" video.
That thing is full of lie after lie after all, all done in "LOVE"...... I watched the original video, it made me sick.
And then FAIR later responded, and verified everything wrong with it..... nowhere close to "love".[/quote]
Something for you to do today: Take out your copy of Bruce r McConkie's Mormon Doctrine and see if you can find just a tad of his attacking the Roman Catholic church-he does not just compare in a nice logical way but seems to talk about the whore of Babylon or uses similar language to describe what the catholic religion stands for. And check out other areas where only the one true Mormon church has standing with God and all others are of the devil. Bruce R so misrepresented things as to be taken to the wood shed by DOM I believe it was.
just pointing out how utterly nieve you are- and don't forget those amazingly compassionate and objective all those articles by the FARMERS are.
k
How is it that you, as an anti-Mormon, did not have the work ethic to quit? could it be that you are stereotyping? Or are you the bigot?[/quote]
Not sure I understand the question, but if I do, I did quit.
I became anti-mormon and anti-religion, thought I knew it all like the rest of you.
The difference between us is that I stopped being anti-mormon and anti-religion because I realized it was a "thought stopper" to actual learning and understanding, as well that it was attacking the very good things in the world I most wanted to understand, truth and right, or what was true and right. Because no matter how "smart" the anti-religious think they are, there is no question that the religious are better people than you. Period.
As to those who "don't quit", people like grindael, Bret Metcalf, other big anti-mormons, (wether ever in the church or not) etc. they are the very small exceptions to the rule, they are the "prophets" for most of the rest of anti-mormons. They don't do what they do to know the truth, they do it because they think they know the truth and/or they want to destroy Mormonism.
I've always said I'm a bigot against liars and bigots.
I don't believe in the Catholic Church, Protestantism, etc., but I don't have to lie about them if I even have the need to be critical of something.
Yet, anti-mormons lie in nearly everything they say. Yes, some of the "facts" they use aren't lies, but their conclsions almost always are.
Just look at the FAIR website.
They now have this cool truth meter on some articles which shows what percentage of anti-mormon claims in an article are actually the truth and facts.
One MormonThink article for example only had 14% of what they said as being the truth and factual.
The rest 86% of what MormonThink stated was outright lies, misrepresentations, and mistakes.
Most of that was also simply facts, not simply "conclusions". If we take most anti-mormon "conclusions" in general on any given subject, the percentage is even much lower. Like, I've also said that around 99% of what anti-mormons claim is false. I'm of course speaking of their conclusions.
So, in contrast, I nor anyone actually objective and fair (not a bigot) doesn't do that to the subjects we may not agree with.
I mean holy donkey crap...... that is insane to us..... We simply take what people believe, and then give our views on them. We don't distort, misrepresent, falsely degrade, use unfair comparisons, use double standards, etc. etc. that anti-mormons do.
But anti-mormonism does. So, that means anti-mormonism is from evil, not truth, fairness, objectivity, and simple disagreement.
Let me give you an example.....
Really the only "book" the Church has published on "other religions" is the Institute of Religion book "World Religions".
If you read that book, it's no different than if you were reading an Encyclopedia on the subject. Not a single ounce of anti-religionism in it.
It does compare and contrast, but it only takes what the religions say they believe and claim.
Or, let's look at Mormon authors. Whenever they have made a book or website on a subject, they again, simply compare and contrast, they don't misrepresent anything. Of course, people being human, there might be the RARE mistake, or most often, a particular religious group may not look at an issue the exact way presented, while others do (after all there are a million flavors of Evangelicals etc., many interpreting some things differently) so you can't please them all, but the LDS scholar does their best. Anyway, whatever rare mistake, it's no where near the amount of falsehoods and misrepresentations in an anti-mormon book.
Fair used to have critics on the God Makers, and maybe a couple of other books.
I know they've critiqued various websites and videos. Take the "Joseph Smith vs. Jesus Christ" video.
That thing is full of lie after lie after all, all done in "LOVE"...... I watched the original video, it made me sick.
And then FAIR later responded, and verified everything wrong with it..... nowhere close to "love".[/quote]
Something for you to do today: Take out your copy of Bruce r McConkie's Mormon Doctrine and see if you can find just a tad of his attacking the Roman Catholic church-he does not just compare in a nice logical way but seems to talk about the whore of Babylon or uses similar language to describe what the catholic religion stands for. And check out other areas where only the one true Mormon church has standing with God and all others are of the devil. Bruce R so misrepresented things as to be taken to the wood shed by DOM I believe it was.
just pointing out how utterly nieve you are- and don't forget those amazingly compassionate and objective all those articles by the FARMERS are.
k