Washington Post article suggests a change is coming

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This policy change was planned for almost a year, apparently when it became clear that gay marriage would become legal, but L. Tom Perry was the lone hold out.


Of course, this source is just rumor, but of all the things I have read about this in the last week, this is one of the most interesting tidbits if true (and I hope it is--I always liked Perry).
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This policy change was planned for almost a year, apparently when it became clear that gay marriage would become legal, but L. Tom Perry was the lone hold out.


Of course, this source is just rumor, but of all the things I have read about this in the last week, this is one of the most interesting tidbits if true (and I hope it is--I always liked Perry).
"The Church is authoritarian, tribal, provincial, and founded on a loosely biblical racist frontier sex cult."--Juggler Vain
"The lds church is the Amway of religions. Even with all the soap they sell, they still manage to come away smelling dirty."--Some Schmo
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Wasn't Elder Perry's last GC talk in April the one about "counterfeit families"?
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consiglieri wrote:Wasn't Elder Perry's last GC talk in April the one about "counterfeit families"?


Hmmm. Maybe. I haven't watched conference in ten years. Disappointing if so. He came to my ward once when I lived in Pleasant Grove and seemed like a nice guy. Didn't give me the creepy sociopath vibe that I got from Oaks or Bednar.
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Yup. Ugh. Every time I start to muster up a little bit of empathy for these guys they have to go and screw it up by being total dicks.

https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2015/04/why-marriage-and-family-matter-everywhere-in-the-world?lang=eng
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It may be "Policy" but it came from a manual issued by "the Brethren". Policies do change so it appears we have a clear case of "the Brethren" leading the members astray.
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consiglieri wrote:Wasn't Elder Perry's last GC talk in April the one about "counterfeit families"?


Yup.

One problem is that much of the media and entertainment that the world shares does not reflect the priorities and values of the majority. For whatever reasons, too much of our television, movies, music, and Internet present a classic case of a minority masquerading as a majority. Immorality and amorality, ranging from graphic violence to recreational sex, is portrayed as the norm and can cause those who have mainstream values to feel like we are out of date or from a bygone era. In such a media and Internet-dominated world, it has never been harder to raise responsible children and to keep marriages and families together.

Despite what much of media and entertainment outlets may suggest, however, and despite the very real decline in the marriage and family orientation of some, the solid majority of mankind still believes that marriage should be between one man and one woman. They believe in fidelity within marriage, and they believe in the marriage vows of “in sickness and in health” and “till death do us part.”

We need to remind ourselves once in a while, as I was reminded in Rome, of the wonderfully reassuring and comforting fact that marriage and family are still the aspiration and ideal of most people and that we are not alone in those beliefs. It has never been more of a challenge to find a practical balance between employment, families, and personal needs than it is in our day. As a church, we want to assist in all that we can to create and support strong marriages and families.

That is why the Church actively participates in and provides leadership to various coalitions and ecumenical efforts to strengthen the family. It is why we share our family-focused values in the media and on social media. It is why we share our genealogical and extended family records with all nations.

We want our voice to be heard against all of the counterfeit and alternative lifestyles that try to replace the family organization that God Himself established. We also want our voice to be heard in sustaining the joy and fulfillment that traditional families bring. We must continue to project that voice throughout the world in declaring why marriage and family are so important, why marriage and family really do matter, and why they always will.

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Equality wrote:Yup. Ugh. Every time I start to muster up a little bit of empathy for these guys they have to go and screw it up by being total dicks.

https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2015/04/why-marriage-and-family-matter-everywhere-in-the-world?lang=eng


They used to teach that the devil made up the lie that he had horns and cloven feet to deceive from being recognized in his normal appearance
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RockSlider wrote:I'm back to my two suggestions to them:

. Monson lost it, Jesus is removing him. (best option)
2. First manifesto, we just need this on the books, Bishops/SP's DO NOT enforce.


Jesus is removing him. (best option)

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OK. At the time You don't get a comment from me ("ludwigm") or from "Paracelsus" or from "Vladimir Putin" or from "L_Tom_Perry" then I am dead.

Wait one month, then say Ludwig is dead.

Anyway, I am 70. A whole life. Five children, twenty grandchildren, 39 years of regular.
A whole life. Did I say it before?
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Doctor Steuss wrote:Indeed, mistakes are made. But, one would hope that the magnitude and frequency that mistakes are made could be significantly mitigated by a multibillion dollar church, with access to their own law firm (conveniently located just across the street, no less), several PR firms, mental health professionals within their social services, business men, corporate advisers, consultants, a university with professors who are experts on many subjects (including ethics), oh... and God.


Freaking nailed it.
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