Assualt weapons

[_RockSlider]

This is a bit more modern "assault" weapon I own. 4" pattern 300 yards, open sights ... beautiful, amazing gun ... total blast to load competition 30 cal loads for and shoot. One of my favorites of my collection.

Springfield Super Match M1A

And all you clowns are threatening one of the joys of my life, which I passed onto my children (daughter included) and I'd love to see them passed on to their children when I go.

[_Quasimodo]

Ultimately.....
"Assault weapons" are needed for civilians because one the Founding Fathers understood that personal defense weapons needed to be able to stand against the government.
More importantly..... had people been armed, MANY Genocides would have been prevented.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xyogBWX_Zg

Ldsfaqs, do you have an assault weapon? What do you think it can protect you from? If a platoon of Army Soldiers or Marines showed up at your door to take you away, how effective do you think it would be in holding them off? You should know this because of your vast experience being a Marine.

Do you use it to shoot bunnies and squirrels?

[_MissTish]

This is a bit more modern "assault" weapon I own. 4" pattern 300 yards, open sights ... beautiful, amazing gun ... total blast to load competition 30 cal loads for and shoot. One of my favorites of my collection.

Springfield Super Match M1A

And all you clowns are threatening one of the joys of my life, which I passed onto my children (daughter included) and I'd love to see them passed on to their children when I go.

No, no no. I swear I have no interest in taking guns like that away. I own numerous guns, everything from a Sako .22 to a Zanotti 12 gauge, and many of them were inherited from my dear grandfather.

[_ldsfaqs]

This is a good overview of various things.
Pay attention to the woman who spoke. The exact things liberals today say about gun control, is exactly what Fascists of the past have said which many times resulted in Genocides.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NcQemQ2bGg

[_RockSlider]

And of course there is not many guns funner to shoot than a nice ar15

This is very similar to my competition ar15 with a very spendy steel target barrel



Once again all of you cry babies that are willing to give up your freedoms for a false sense of security are fools.

[_Lemmie]

This is a good overview of various things.
Pay attention to the woman who spoke. The exact things liberals today say about gun control, is exactly what Fascists of the past have said which many times resulted in Genocides.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NcQemQ2bGg

Nope. Not going to watch the trash you post. Your reputation precedes you. But since you're online still, any hope of getting to those missing references and plagiarized citations?

[_Quasimodo]

And of course there is not many guns funner to shoot than a nice ar15

This is very similar to my competition ar15 with a very spendy steel target barrel



Once again all of you cry babies that are willing to give up your freedoms for a false sense of security are fools.

I like you a lot, Rock, but do you really need them? I'm sure that you have no plans to do evil things with them, but there seems to be a lot of people that do these days. I think it would be better if those people had a very hard time securing those types of weapons.

It might also be fun to be able to throw a grenade at a harmless target, but fortunately those have been banned from private ownership.

[Guest]

And then my favorite gun of all from my collection, the one I would take out if I was going to try and break some record of how many people I could kill before they killed me.

Realize that the "assault" rifles I've shown to this point where fairly damn expensive when I bought them 20 years ago.

I think I paid over 1700 bucks for the M1a, and had around $2500 in the target comp ar15.

Now even today, you can pick up what would be my favorite pick for going nuts after the crowd for under 600 bucks!



Mine has a very nice composite stock and a 26 power target scope on it, so its a bit more spendy, but still under 1000.

I loaded for and played around with 1000 yard shots with this gun.



eta: Winchester model 70, 300 win mag (Alaskan Black Bear type of gun)

[_ldsfaqs]

Ultimately.....
"Assault weapons" are needed for civilians because one the Founding Fathers understood that personal defense weapons needed to be able to stand against the government.

I hear this argument from gun nuts all the time. But it's not 1776 anymore and our armed forces ordnance has gotten much more advanced than flintlock muskets.

So if you're making this argument you need to lay out how you think the small arms in private hands are going to do any good whatsoever against the US military.

Do you think that since there’s X millions of gun owners in this country we can count on a large percentage of them to rise up spontaneously against the Evil Dictator’s government?

And what would be the signal or the trigger to do so? Who’s going to be in charge? It’s a big country, and people are scattered everywhere. The militia groups that are organized probably have nearly as many government informers as they do members.

And what if something big goes down a thousand miles away? Think you’d even get close?

Also, please tell me how hand guns and rifles are supposed to take out MBTs, Tomcat aircraft and on and on. This isn’t Iraq or Afghanistan. There aren’t thousands of spare RPGs and artillery rounds for IEDs lying around.

And when ammo runs short, where does the new supply come from? You may have thousands of rounds saved up, but how many others do? And if you do have ammo and you go down, will your comrades know where you hid it? Will they be able to get to your cache? How many rounds do you think are expended in a typical fire-fight?

What about communications, command and control? Training? Intelligence? Discipline? Food supply? Medical?

1. And I hear your liberal nuts ignorant argument all the time.

First, Flint lock Musket's aren't all that existed during the Founding Fathers time.
There's this thing called "Cannons". Civilian ships were allowed to generally have Cannon's to defend themselves from Pirates and Rouge Country's or ships.

There also were in fact "machine guns", etc. during the time.
Watch this video and learn something.

The 2nd Amendment : For Muskets Only?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CquUBWHU2_s

2. You're jibbering a lot here.... I'll try to answer most.

A. The American populous is FAR larger than the U.S. Military. Personal weapons of all kinds should be nearly completely legal.
Further, you falsely assume that "all" of the military is going to comply. They won't if people are armed anywhere and there is a chance to rebel.
You clearly haven't studied history whatsoever, or even the Middle east in our day. The "people" rise against governments all the time and win all the time when they have some power to be able to. When they don't, genocides often occur, like Mao, one of the liberal favorites who is the largest mass murderer of history, not even by war but pure political/ideological murder. He murdered all the intellectuals.....

B. Again, study some dang history. Nobody has said fighting against a moder government would be easy, but it's certainly doable.

C. Like I said, there are military bases all over the country, not every one will join the government, and/or some can be taken over.

D. Again, when life get's hard, things have to be done different. We would have to start making our own ammo, use joined military supply's, all kinds of things.

Honestly..... I don't get your pessimism.... People have fought against governments forever, including in our modern day and won.
What also makes you think that some might not help us either? France helped the U.S. in the Revolutionary war against Britain. Guess what, they were the government.

Seriously though..... What's your answer? You think we should just do nothing and just allow ourselves to be enslaved and killed by a rough government?
I mean, the stupidity of you liberals are amazing. There are a LOT of conservatives in the military. They aren't going to take crap if things get that bad.
Fascism has a limit..... Only when the government fully controls it's people, and doesn't give them arms and access to information are they able to continue to control the people, like in North Korea.

So, hello..... That's why we want to maintain the "power" with the people..... and guess what, it's done with Arms.
The 2nd Amendment protects the First, and all the others. If you don't get that then you need to go back to school, or study conservatism for a change instead of liberal brainwashing which is likely better because school will more than likely be liberal in bias.

[_ldsfaqs]

This is a good overview of various things.
Pay attention to the woman who spoke. The exact things liberals today say about gun control, is exactly what Fascists of the past have said which many times resulted in Genocides.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NcQemQ2bGg

Nope. Not going to watch the trash you post. Your reputation precedes you. But since you're online still, any hope of getting to those missing references and plagiarized citations?

Typical response of the brainwashed and ignorant.... You'll NEVER hear a conservative say that.
We study ALL sides and facts to find the actual truth of things.