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Re: Does God have body parts and passions

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Zakuska wrote:
Mittens wrote:Mormonism straw man perpetrated by below link and others
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They seem to cling to a 17th century confession called the Westminster Confession, which most Traditional Christian haven't heard of or would careless what it taught


4 Christian creeds that teach God has no Body parts or passions...
http://home.earthlink.net/~ronrhodes/Creeds.html

Many Christian churchs hold to these creeds to this very day...

https://www.google.com/search?safe=stri ... P-KvgHz-CY

And if you don't ascent to the creeds you are excommunicated.

So no its not a "Mormon Strawman"... its the Christian churches themselves,

God the Father has no body parts. Christ Jesus assumed human form. And so because there is but one essence GOD, both the Father and the Holy Spirit experienced every human emotion through Jesus Christ. No one can deny that The LORD Jesus Christ had body parts. However, HE emptied Himself of the immensity of GOD and became human --- A perfect human without sin. He commended His Spirit to the Father and gave up His life. No one took it from Him. So understand the reason Christians embrace the idea of a TRINITY. Holy, Holy Holy! LORD GOD ALMIGHTY! Which wert and art and evermore shall be. The revelation of Jesus is that HE is LORD of ALL, and now also a Man to absolute perfection.
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LittleNipper wrote:
Zakuska wrote:And if you don't ascent to the creeds you are excommunicated.

So no its not a "Mormon Strawman"... its the Christian churches themselves,

God the Father has no body parts. Christ Jesus assumed human form. And so because there is but one essence GOD, both the Father and the Holy Spirit experienced every human emotion through Jesus Christ. No one can deny that The LORD Jesus Christ had body parts. However, HE emptied Himself of the immensity of GOD and became human --- A perfect human without sin. He commended His Spirit to the Father and gave up His life. No one took it from Him. So understand the reason Christians embrace the idea of a TRINITY. Holy, Holy Holy! LORD GOD ALMIGHTY! Which wert and art and evermore shall be. The revelation of Jesus is that HE is LORD of ALL, and now also a Man to absolute perfection.

If God the Father has no body parts.. and Christ didn't receive a human body until after he was born of the virgin Mary... who's "back parts" did Moses see?

Ex 33:23
“And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.”

And which God... Jesus or the Father. Placed his hands on Moses and the 70 Elders and consecrated them to the work?

Ex 24
9 ¶Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and aseventy of the belders of Israel:
10 And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as cit were the body of heaven in his clearness.
11 And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.
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LittleNipper wrote:God the Father has no body parts.
Oh God God Godgodgod! We Thank You God The Father That We Have Your Special Prophet Who Knows This.
And everything. And everything better than We Heathens.


LittleNipper wrote:Christ Jesus assumed human form. And so because there is but one essence GOD, both the Father and the Holy Spirit experienced every human emotion through Jesus Christ. No one can deny that The LORD Jesus Christ had body parts. However, HE emptied Himself of the immensity of GOD and became human --- A perfect human without sin. He commended His Spirit to the Father and gave up His life. No one took it from Him. So understand the reason Christians embrace the idea of a TRINITY. Holy, Holy Holy! LORD GOD ALMIGHTY! Which wert and art and evermore shall be. The revelation of Jesus is that HE is LORD of ALL, and now also a Man to absolute perfection.
Gobbledygook.
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Colossians 1:15-16

New Living Translation
Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation, for through him God created everything in the heavenly realms and on earth.
He made the things we can see and the things we can’t see—such as thrones, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities in the unseen world. Everything was created through him and for him.

So when we see God, we are seeing Christ. And when we see Christ, we are seeing God. Old Testament views of God are either CHRISTOPHANIES, or figurative for human understanding.

CHRISTOPHANY - see http://www.bibletruthsyoudidnotsee.com/gpage31.html
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LittleNipper wrote:Colossians 1:15-16

New Living Translation
Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation, for through him God created everything in the heavenly realms and on earth.
He made the things we can see and the things we can’t see—such as thrones, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities in the unseen world. Everything was created through him and for him.

So when we see God, we are seeing Christ. And when we see Christ, we are seeing God. Old Testament views of God are either CHRISTOPHANIES, or figurative for human understanding.

CHRISTOPHANY - see http://www.bibletruthsyoudidnotsee.com/gpage31.html
Another gobbledygook.

Wait a little (some years) to reach the New Testament on your own other stupid thread... Here on celestial!
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco
- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
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LittleNipper wrote:Colossians 1:15-16
Old Testament views of God are either CHRISTOPHANIES, or figurative for human understanding.

CHRISTOPHANY - see http://www.bibletruthsyoudidnotsee.com/gpage31.html


If what Moses saw on the Mount was a "Christophany" how was he able to see Christ'd body (ie backparts) before Christ had a Body?

When the Old Testament says they "Saw God" its not "figurative" at all. They actually saw God.

Secondly... Paul in the New Testament calls Wisdom in the Old Testament Christ.

Wisdom in the Old Testament claims to have been created.
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SteelHead wrote:Some one remind me what resurrected Jesus looked like again.....


Barry Gibb, only taller.
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I have a question wrote:
SteelHead wrote:Some one remind me what resurrected Jesus looked like again.....


Barry Gibb, only taller.


Nah. I'm thinking more like Gerald Johnson. :ugeek:
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Zakuska wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Colossians 1:15-16
Old Testament views of God are either CHRISTOPHANIES, or figurative for human understanding.

CHRISTOPHANY - see http://www.bibletruthsyoudidnotsee.com/gpage31.html


If what Moses saw on the Mount was a "Christophany" how was he able to see Christ'd body (ie backparts) before Christ had a Body?

When the Old Testament says they "Saw God" its not "figurative" at all. They actually saw God.

Secondly... Paul in the New Testament calls Wisdom in the Old Testament Christ.

Wisdom in the Old Testament claims to have been created.


Selections from Answers to Gospel Questions
Taken from the writings of Joseph Fielding Smith
Tenth President of Mormonism
A course Study for the Melchizedek Priesthood Quorums
1972-73

Lesson 6 page 39

It was Jesus who gave commandments to Adam after he was driven out of the Garden of Eden and who directed Enoch and Noah before the flood. It was Christ who named Abraham and made him that through his posterity all nations would be blessed. He, it was who called Moses to lead Isreal out of Egypt and who wrote with his fingers on the tables of stone. He had no body until he was born in Bethlehem.

“Moses and Aaron, Nahab and Abihu, and seventy of the Elders went up and saw God of Israel under his feet was something like pavement made of sapphire, clear as the sky it self, but God did not raise his hand against these leaders of Israelites, they saw God, and they ate and drank,” Exodus 24:9-11

“at this point the men turned from there way to Sodom but as for JEHOVAH he was standing still before Abraham….then JEHOVAH went his way when he had finished speaking to Abraham.” Genesis 18:22-33 New World Translation Genesis 18:2 says three men appeared to Abraham, two are identified as angels {Genesis 19:1} ONE IS IDENTIFIED AS JEHOVAH GOD Genesis 18:1,3,13,14,17,20,22,26,27,31,32 and 33
Justice = Getting what you deserve
Mercy = Not getting what you deserve
Grace = Getting what you can never deserve
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Mittens wrote:
Selections from Answers to Gospel Questions
Taken from the writings of Joseph Fielding Smith
Tenth President of Mormonism
A course Study for the Melchizedek Priesthood Quorums
1972-73

Lesson 6 page 39

It was Jesus who gave commandments to Adam after he was driven out of the Garden of Eden and who directed Enoch and Noah before the flood. It was Christ who named Abraham and made him that through his posterity all nations would be blessed. He, it was who called Moses to lead Isreal out of Egypt and who wrote with his fingers on the tables of stone. He had no body until he was born in Bethlehem.

“Moses and Aaron, Nahab and Abihu, and seventy of the Elders went up and saw God of Israel under his feet was something like pavement made of sapphire, clear as the sky it self, but God did not raise his hand against these leaders of Israelites, they saw God, and they ate and drank,” Exodus 24:9-11

“at this point the men turned from there way to Sodom but as for JEHOVAH he was standing still before Abraham….then JEHOVAH went his way when he had finished speaking to Abraham.” Genesis 18:22-33 New World Translation Genesis 18:2 says three men appeared to Abraham, two are identified as angels {Genesis 19:1} ONE IS IDENTIFIED AS JEHOVAH GOD Genesis 18:1,3,13,14,17,20,22,26,27,31,32 and 33


You need to keep up to the times and current Scholarship. There are 2 YHWHs spoken of in the Old Testament.

Gen 19
24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;

LORD here = YHWH

The YHWH who was on the earth who had Just spoken to Abraham and went his way and who called down fire an Brimstone from his YHWH father in heaven.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... e43k7GDVhw
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