Gregory Smith tells Riess to 'keep quiet about new policy'
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Notice that Smith doesn't even entertain the thought that the "prophet" could be wrong. Just shut the “F” up and keep your disagreement to yourself. The essence of Mormon "common consent". I've never been more glad that I left that ugly, bigoted, evil Corporation.
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Re: Gregory Smith tells Riess to 'keep quiet about new polic
Ceeboo wrote:
I'll translate for you Ceeboo, it's quite some amazing doublethink, and I am genuinely impressed.
Gregory Smith actually wrote:1. As a first step, we must consider that in questioning the prophet, you may indeed be receiving revelation from Lucifer, or one of his servants.
2. Once you accept that this revelation is false, pray until you believe the prophet speaks the truth.
3. God takes a while to change the hearts of men, except when he doesn't, however assume that this change of heart may take years.
4. If you are still questioning the prophet, and you are certain that the revelation is from God, then clearly what has happened is that God requires an official policy because it is the right time for one, but, in your pious devotion, he has decided to give to you more knowledge than most, to see that in the future he will reverse this policy. This however is unlikely, repeat steps 1-3.
5. If you are still convinced that the prophet is wrong, then perhaps God is trusting you to keep a secret until it is the right time to reveal it. Don't disappoint him.
Mormon 9:9 For do we not read that God is the same yesterday, today, and forever, and in him there is no variableness neither shadow of changing
D&C 29:34 Wherefore, verily I say unto you that all things unto me are spiritual, and not at any time have I given you a law which was temporal[...]
D&C 29:34 Wherefore, verily I say unto you that all things unto me are spiritual, and not at any time have I given you a law which was temporal[...]
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GA nails it.
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Gaelan_Ainsworth wrote: ...it's quite some amazing doublethink, and I am genuinely impressed.Gregory Smith actually wrote:1. As a first step, we must consider that in questioning the prophet, you may indeed be receiving revelation from Lucifer, or one of his servants.
2. Once you accept that this revelation is false, pray until you believe the prophet speaks the truth.
3. God takes a while to change the hearts of men, except when he doesn't, however assume that this change of heart may take years.
4. If you are still questioning the prophet, and you are certain that the revelation is from God, then clearly what has happened is that God requires an official policy because it is the right time for one, but, in your pious devotion, he has decided to give to you more knowledge than most, to see that in the future he will reverse this policy. This however is unlikely, repeat steps 1-3.
5. If you are still convinced that the prophet is wrong, then perhaps God is trusting you to keep a secret until it is the right time to reveal it. Don't disappoint him.
http://mormonitemusings.com/2015/10/27/ ... -paradigm/
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Re: Gregory Smith tells Riess to 'keep quiet about new polic
Thanks Grindael, that was a fascinating read.
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What exactly the problem here? You anti's are claiming things Greg Smith didn't in fact say.
What he did actually say was entirely reasonable.
I know because I became an anti-mormon and anti-religion because I didn't follow those suggestions.
I may have never come back to the church had I continued judging things like anti-mormons do, not put away my judgments, not continued to learn and understand in a balanced and fair way (instead of judging) etc.
Had I followed his recommendations, I never would have left the church, even if I had some problems with it, and it would have been FAR better had I not left. My career and life would have been totally different had I not left for the some 2-3 years or so I did. I didn't do something big and useful with someone because of my anti-mormonism/anti-religionism.
What he did actually say was entirely reasonable.
I know because I became an anti-mormon and anti-religion because I didn't follow those suggestions.
I may have never come back to the church had I continued judging things like anti-mormons do, not put away my judgments, not continued to learn and understand in a balanced and fair way (instead of judging) etc.
Had I followed his recommendations, I never would have left the church, even if I had some problems with it, and it would have been FAR better had I not left. My career and life would have been totally different had I not left for the some 2-3 years or so I did. I didn't do something big and useful with someone because of my anti-mormonism/anti-religionism.
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Re: Gregory Smith tells Riess to 'keep quiet about new polic
Morning faqs!
Yeah - That's the entire point.
Peace,
Ceeboo

ldsfaqs wrote:
Had I followed his recommendations, I never would have left the church
Yeah - That's the entire point.
Peace,
Ceeboo
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ldsfaqs wrote:What exactly the problem here? You anti's are claiming things Greg Smith didn't in fact say.
What he did actually say was entirely reasonable.
I know because I became an anti-mormon and anti-religion because I didn't follow those suggestions.
I may have never come back to the church had I continued judging things like anti-mormons do, not put away my judgments, not continued to learn and understand in a balanced and fair way (instead of judging) etc.
Had I followed his recommendations, I never would have left the church, even if I had some problems with it, and it would have been FAR better had I not left. My career and life would have been totally different had I not left for the some 2-3 years or so I did. I didn't do something big and useful with someone because of my anti-mormonism/anti-religionism.
I was an "anti Mormon" yada, yada, yada... ***yawn***
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grindael wrote:Notice that Smith doesn't even entertain the thought that the "prophet" could be wrong. Just shut the f*** up and keep your disagreement to yourself. The essence of Mormon "common consent". I've never been more glad that I left that ugly, bigoted, evil Corporation.
There are some on another board who are arguing that "common consent" has been followed because all the Q15 consented to the new policy.
I am not making this up.
And they are making this argument with a straight face.
You prove yourself of the devil and anti-mormon every word you utter, because only the devil perverts facts to make their case.--ldsfaqs (6-24-13)
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This part of Brian's blog is puzzling:
I think they are treasured far more than they deserve.
We need the prophets and apostles so desperately. I don’t think we treasure them enough.
I think they are treasured far more than they deserve.
You prove yourself of the devil and anti-mormon every word you utter, because only the devil perverts facts to make their case.--ldsfaqs (6-24-13)