Who is worse in your eyes?

[_spotlight]

Definitely Brigham

Heidi Klum from project runway agrees after viewing Brigham's fall lineup.

[_grindael]

I'm with you on this.

There is a certain ethical similarity between Joseph's rhetoric, the purpose of Zion's Camp, and the Mormon War in Missouri to the Utah War and Brigham's fortress Zion. But in Smith's case there was mutual hostile action and a lot of Mormon women and children died of exposure due no more to Smith's actions than have ever died because they believed the words of some authority that was hated by others. Had Rigdon not given his infamous speech, would so many have died? Or had George Albert not ridden through Southern Utah, would the MMM been avoided? I don't know. But I don't see as direct a line between Smith's actions and the deaths that followed without so many others on both sides being given over to their most base instincts. And that being said knowing some of my own ancestors and their children died of exposure having been ran out of their house in the dead of winter at night.

Evil is not a word I use lightly. What happened at Mountain Meadows seems only possible when the worst of human behavior is magnified through the leadership of a vile and depraved mind, and people feel they no longer are responsible for their own actions giving license to cross lines unimaginable. MMM meets my criteria for being evil. And Young bears the lions share of responsibility for it and full responsibility for the cover-up that followed as you pointed out earlier.

Persuasive. Don't forget though, all those that died for the Redemption of Zion, fleeing out of Missouri, in the swamps of Commerce and during the Battle of Nauvoo.