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Kishkumen wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 8:15 pm
Obsessively tracking likes on her sexy pics.
I think you’re notified when someone 👍’s your Facebook stuff. So, it’s not unusual that she was notified he 👍ed a bunch of pics, she checked them out, and then at some point within some context went back to the pics, perhaps discussing the weirdness with a friend or family member and noticed he un👍ed the pics, and then, at some point JD re👍ed them which would the the weirdly obsessive behavior. Her noticing that wouldn’t be unusual, not talking about it when it’s topical.

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Lem wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 8:29 pm
Kishkumen, I recognize this pattern of yours. Your last response to me was not even logical, because Doc's wife would have noticed the liking the same way the woman in the OP did, and yet you rip into her while lauding the other story. This tells me that you are just picking a fight, and I decline to accommodate whatever you are trying to work out.
Sorry, Lem. But I envisioned two parts to this action.

#1 noticing. DocCam had already gotten past that part, so it was no longer material.
#2 reacting. DocCam's wife's reaction looked reasonably proportional, so I thought it was somewhat praiseworthy.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 8:31 pm
I think you’re notified when someone 👍’s your Facebook stuff. So, it’s not unusual that she was notified he 👍ed a bunch of pics, she checked them out, and then at some point within some context went back to the pics, perhaps discussing the weirdness with a friend or family member and noticed he un👍ed the pics, and then, at some point John Dehlin re👍ed them which would the the weirdly obsessive behavior. Her noticing that wouldn’t be unusual, not talking about it when it’s topical.
Yeah, I get lots of notifications. I don't sit there and scrutinize them closely. You are asking me to assume things I can't know about this not-to-be-named person, so perhaps that's where the problem with this whole exercise begins.

Something to think about.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 8:31 pm
Kishkumen wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 8:15 pm
Obsessively tracking likes on her sexy pics.
I think you’re notified when someone 👍’s your Facebook stuff. So, it’s not unusual that she was notified he 👍ed a bunch of pics, she checked them out, and then at some point within some context went back to the pics, perhaps discussing the weirdness with a friend or family member and noticed he un👍ed the pics, and then, at some point JD re👍ed them which would the the weirdly obsessive behavior. Her noticing that wouldn’t be unusual, not talking about it when it’s topical.

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I'm not really on Facebook either, except to access and read stuff, but it does seem weird that someone would go to the trouble of unliking and then reliking, if not to bring it to the attention of the recipient.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 8:33 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 8:31 pm
I think you’re notified when someone 👍’s your Facebook stuff. So, it’s not unusual that she was notified he 👍ed a bunch of pics, she checked them out, and then at some point within some context went back to the pics, perhaps discussing the weirdness with a friend or family member and noticed he un👍ed the pics, and then, at some point John Dehlin re👍ed them which would the the weirdly obsessive behavior. Her noticing that wouldn’t be unusual, not talking about it when it’s topical.
Yeah, I get lots of notifications. I don't sit there and scrutinize them closely. You are asking me to assume things I can't know about this not-to-be-named person, so perhaps that's where the problem with this whole exercise begins.

Something to think about.
When you get a notification from Facebook that some 👍ed a pic of yours or a comment you made you don’t click on the notification out of curiosity or got to your pic or comment as a sort of reminding yourself what that thing was? I do. I think it’s a natural Facebook user behavior.

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Meadowchik wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 8:05 pm
Kishkumen wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 8:01 pm


Predictable nonsense.
You have so much empathy for Dehlin but where is your empathy for women? Where is your "benefit of the doubt" for a person who remembers attention from a public figure?
Why should we take this story at face value?

Why is this offended woman not so offended as to tell her own story?

Why must her story be filtered through an ardent defender?

Exactly the same as Rosebud?

Why is all we are getting hearsay?

Just some questions from the peanut gallery.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 8:36 pm
When you get a notification from Facebook that some 👍ed a pic of yours or a comment you made you don’t click on the notification out of curiosity or got to your pic or comment as a sort of reminding yourself what that thing was? I do. I think it’s a natural Facebook user behavior.

- Doc
Yeah, maybe on occasion. Not enough to track like, unlike, like. Sometimes I have gone to like something that I forgot I liked, then I accidentally hit like, inadvertently unliking it, so then I feel obliged to like it again lest the person think I was retracting a like.

I had no idea that such a thing would be considered a secret, creepy message, but then I don't like people's "sexy pics."
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consiglieri wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 8:27 pm

Oh come now, meadowchick.

You claim to know the name of the woman in question but don’t get my reference to the “Boston Strangler”?
Now you're being gross two ways.
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consiglieri wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 8:38 pm
Why should we take this story at face value?

Why is this offended woman not so offended as to tell her own story?

Why must her story be filtered through an ardent defender?

Exactly the same as Rosebud?

Why is all we are getting hearsay?

Just some questions from the peanut gallery.
consiglieri, I think you need to ponder about your need to feel all kinds of empathy for this person whom you have no clue about who has made some kind of complaint about John Dehlin through Meadowchik.

If you can't muster that, you're just a bad person.
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Lem wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 8:12 pm
Meadowchik wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 7:59 pm


This response is what's gross.
Yes it is. This thread is discussing whether John Dehlin liking and reliking posts is appropriate when it makes the poster feel uncomfortable. This repeated and negative focus, instead, on the character of the person who feels uncomfortable is both irrelevant and inappropriate.
Jesus Christ!

I just sentenced a 21-year old client to prison this morning for killing a friend in a car accident.

And you’re moaning about a woman feeling uncomfortable that the sexy pics of herself she put out on her own Facebook page got too much male notice?!

Can we get a little freaking perspective around here?
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