My Favorite (to date) take down of Creationism.

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Franktalk wrote:
spotlight wrote:Gunnar,
Franktalk does not care about renewable energy. He wants us to move back into the caves.


I actually want way more technology than we have today. I sure would like a model 2.0 body of flesh. This one wears out easy and is prone to pick up defects. Of course when we figure out how to clone bodies and transfer the mind I would be happy with that for a while.

You and Jo were taken in with the movie avatar I guess. The mind is due to the arrangement of atoms known as the brain. There is no separable software residing in the hardware of the brain that could be transferable.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
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You and Jo were taken in with the movie avatar I guess. The mind is due to the arrangement of atoms known as the brain. There is no separable software residing in the hardware of the brain that could be transferable.[/quote]

Yes, and no. Human brains are pretty similar in physiology. The mind is a different quality of that physiology.
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The CCC wrote:
spotlight wrote:You and Jo were taken in with the movie avatar I guess. The mind is due to the arrangement of atoms known as the brain. There is no separable software residing in the hardware of the brain that could be transferable.


Yes, and no. Human brains are pretty similar in physiology. The mind is a different quality of that physiology.

Please present the scientific research that substantiates that the mind is due to anything other than the arrangement of the matter making up the brain.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
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ludwigm wrote:The religious neurons are interconnected weird way.

My wife used to learn - amomg others - nuclear physics, after graduating she could have worked for Institute of Physics, University of Debrecen. Instead, she has chosen to become a math-phys teacher. She has taught in middle school (high in US...) and in college.

She believes in flood, don't find any negative in the Elisha's bear story (today's topic of institute) and TBM since two decades.
And she refuses to read the essays on LDS.org, because "to your liar internet anybody can put anything on". (her words...)


Hi ludwigm - not sure if you want to effect a change in her at this late time in your lives, but if you do and are looking for a way to crack the shell, pretend that you are interested in the isochron method of dating and tell her you can't understand it and want her to explain to you how it works since she understands nuclear physics.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
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spotlight wrote:
ludwigm wrote:The religious neurons are interconnected weird way.

My wife used to learn - amomg others - nuclear physics, after graduating she could have worked for Institute of Physics, University of Debrecen. Instead, she has chosen to become a math-phys teacher. She has taught in middle school (high in US...) and in college.

She believes in flood, don't find any negative in the Elisha's bear story (today's topic of institute) and TBM since two decades.
And she refuses to read the essays on LDS.org, because "to your liar internet anybody can put anything on". (her words...)
Hi ludwigm - not sure if you want to effect a change in her at this late time in your lives, but if you do and are looking for a way to crack the shell, pretend that you are interested in the isochron method of dating and tell her you can't understand it and want her to explain to you how it works since she understands nuclear physics.

She would explain it... I have no problem with her knowledge. It is about her faith above knowledge. ***
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Please present the scientific research that substantiates that the mind is due to anything other than the arrangement of the matter making up the brain.[/quote]

That is not what I said. It really is combo plate of interactions of thoughts and atoms. Our thoughts modify our brains.
SEE http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2 ... our-brain/

and the rest of our body's too.
Synergistic thought
SEE http://cdp.sagepub.com/content/14/1/39.short
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The CCC wrote:That is not what I said. It really is combo plate of interactions of thoughts and atoms. Our thoughts modify our brains.
SEE http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2 ... our-brain/

and the rest of our body's too.
Synergistic thought
SEE http://cdp.sagepub.com/content/14/1/39.short


Take it down a level. I am discussing the physics of what goes on in the brain.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
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ludwigm wrote:The religious neurons are interconnected weird way.

My wife used to learn - amomg others - nuclear physics, after graduating she could have worked for Institute of Physics, University of Debrecen. Instead, she has chosen to become a math-phys teacher. She has taught in middle school (high in US...) and in college.

She believes in flood, don't doesn't find any negative in the Elisha's bear story (today's topic of institute) and TBM since two decades.
And she refuses to read the essays on LDS.org, because "to your liar internet anybody can put anything on". (her words...)

I wonder if it would help to point out to her that it is possible to remain a member of the Church in good standing without necessarily taking the Noah's Flood story literally. There are temple recommend holding geology professors at BYU who acknowledge that it couldn't/t possibly be literally true.
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spotlight wrote:Take it down a level. I am discussing the physics of what goes on in the brain.


Is the brain a deterministic device? Does the body contain a soul? Your answers to these basic questions determines if you are even qualified to discuss the subject.
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Franktalk wrote:
spotlight wrote:Take it down a level. I am discussing the physics of what goes on in the brain.


Is the brain a deterministic device? Does the body contain a soul? Your answers to these basic questions determines if you are even qualified to discuss the subject.


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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