Science is a tool that can be abused!

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Frankensteintalk wrote:As we make better and better robots we find ourselves making models that are closer and closer to what we are.

In time we will be able to download our mind into a robot.

If we are already immortal beings why are we designing robots into which to download our minds especially since what we make is only an imperfect approximation of what we already are?
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
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spotlight wrote:If we are already immortal beings why are we designing robots into which to download our minds especially since what we make is only an imperfect approximation of what we already are?


Because we are bored. Our mind comes here to experience newness again. This is done by limiting the gateway between our advanced self and our avatar. You really should read what I write. I have been over all this before.
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Franktalk wrote: This is done by limiting the gateway between our advanced self and our avatar.

Could you expand on the technicalities of this part for me? Obviously you seem to understand all about it. Maybe you could include some schematics for the rest of us? Because frankly without the detail it comes off like the simple story of a 5 year old.
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spotlight wrote:
Franktalk wrote: I say there is no such thing as a biological creature.

I call dibs! Another addition for my signature line! :lol:

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Franktalk wrote:
spotlight wrote:If we are already immortal beings why are we designing robots into which to download our minds especially since what we make is only an imperfect approximation of what we already are?


Because we are bored. Our mind comes here to experience newness again. This is done by limiting the gateway between our advanced self and our avatar. You really should read what I write. I have been over all this before.


I've read a few things you have written, but since you provide no reason to think they are accurate, I don't want to waste time reading the ramblings of a ____. It's obvious to others you have no good reason to think they are accurate, and that you make things up you like that enter your mind. I do the same thing, but don't believe most of it because I know there is no way to know I am right. I saw a UFO once. Is it reasonable to believe that it was indeed an alien ship with alien life from another planet?
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spotlight wrote:Could you expand on the technicalities of this part for me? Obviously you seem to understand all about it. Maybe you could include some schematics for the rest of us? Because frankly without the detail it comes off like the simple story of a 5 year old.


Ether 3:6
And it came to pass that when
the brother of Jared had said these
words, behold, the Lord stretched
forth his hand and touched the
stones one by one with his finger.
And the veil was taken from off the
eyes of the brother of Jared, and he
saw the finger of the Lord; and it
was as the finger of a man, like unto
flesh and blood; and the brother of
Jared fell down before the Lord,
for he was struck with fear.

Ether 3:20
Wherefore, having this perfect
knowledge of God, he could not be
kept from within the veil; therefore
he saw Jesus; and he did minister
unto him.

Here are just two examples of the scriptures talking about the veil. Although the Book of Mormon is fable some of the ideas in the book are indeed pointing to truth. Also in the Endowment the veil is represented by a curtain that the players must pass through to go into mortality or go back to the greater reality.

Here is another quote.

"If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds the world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by His power, was to make Himself visible, - I say, if you were to see Him today, you would see Him like a man in form - like yourself in all the person, image, and very form as a man.”
― Joseph Smith Jr.

The details of the veil and how it works I sure don't know. On the other side of the veil I am sure my greater self knows all about it. But we are not to know these things while here.
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Franktalk wrote:
spotlight wrote:Could you expand on the technicalities of this part for me? Obviously you seem to understand all about it. Maybe you could include some schematics for the rest of us? Because frankly without the detail it comes off like the simple story of a 5 year old.


Ether 3:6
And it came to pass that when
the brother of Jared had said these
words, behold, the Lord stretched
forth his hand and touched the
stones one by one with his finger.
And the veil was taken from off the
eyes of the brother of Jared, and he
saw the finger of the Lord; and it
was as the finger of a man, like unto
flesh and blood; and the brother of
Jared fell down before the Lord,
for he was struck with fear.

Ether 3:20
Wherefore, having this perfect
knowledge of God, he could not be
kept from within the veil; therefore
he saw Jesus; and he did minister
unto him.

Here are just two examples of the scriptures talking about the veil. Although the Book of Mormon is fable some of the ideas in the book are indeed pointing to truth. Also in the Endowment the veil is represented by a curtain that the players must pass through to go into mortality or go back to the greater reality.

Here is another quote.

"If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds the world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by His power, was to make Himself visible, - I say, if you were to see Him today, you would see Him like a man in form - like yourself in all the person, image, and very form as a man.”
― Joseph Smith Jr.

The details of the veil and how it works I sure don't know. On the other side of the veil I am sure my greater self knows all about it. But we are not to know these things while here.


You realize that the Book of Mormon is as real as the Lord of the Rings, right, Frank? Except that J.R.R. didn't bamboozle people and pretend to be a prophet and mess around with their women. You should pick your sources better.
"God" is the original deus ex machina. --Maksutov
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Maksutov wrote:You realize that the Book of Mormon is as real as the Lord of the Rings, right, Frank? Except that J.R.R. didn't bamboozle people and pretend to be a prophet and mess around with their women. You should pick your sources better.


As I have stated the book is a fable. But it does contain some truth in the ideas presented. I am sorry that you can not see the baby mixed in with the bathwater.
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Franktalk wrote:
Maksutov wrote:You realize that the Book of Mormon is as real as the Lord of the Rings, right, Frank? Except that J.R.R. didn't bamboozle people and pretend to be a prophet and mess around with their women. You should pick your sources better.


As I have stated the book is a fable. But it does contain some truth in the ideas presented. I am sorry that you can see the baby mixed in with the bathwater.


You can project anything you want onto anything you want. It's your imagination.
"God" is the original deus ex machina. --Maksutov
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The myth of the godless apostate is a huge part of the LDS mindset. Those who manage to escape realize it is nonsense but the TBMs are still blinded by it.

Well I'm hungry now, gotta go find a Christian child to bake in my oven for dinner. I think I'll pick that one in the bath water. :twisted:
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
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