The consequences of living a non-valiant life in pre-existen

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Franktalk wrote:
Maksutov wrote:Yep. Especially the pre-existence part. :wink:


Our intellect is eternal. We occupied a body in what is called the preexistence and we occupy one now. There the intellect is in complete control of the body and mind. Here the mind of the body pretty much runs on its own. Our intellect rarely injects ideas into the physical mind. In a few thousand years that will change and our intellect will take on more control.

This is what I believe but feel free to believe what you wish.

In "heaven" or the preexistence our bodies are sexless. No need for food or shelter. We can not die unless we choose to reset ourselves. Nice place. In time the physical bodies we have will be enhanced to obtain energy directly from nature. Fun times ahead. At least this is how I see it.

All are equal in the preexistence.


How does this fit in with the millions who claim reincarnation, Frank?
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I wonder what I did to be born with Tourette Syndrome, ADHD, Depresison, and Anxiety.
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MetalSlasher wrote:I wonder what I did to be born with Tourette Syndrome, ADHD, Depresison, and Anxiety.


I knew a young man with all of those things. You didn't do anything to deserve it and neither did he. Please be careful and seek out competent and caring people to help you. My friend went through all kinds of weird "therapies", some of which were the subject of lawsuits later. He was also experimented on with medications, to his detriment. If you ever want to PM me to talk, please do.
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Maksutov wrote:How does this fit in with the millions who claim reincarnation, Frank?


We do go from one body to the next. Our memories however do not go into the new body. People who claim reincarnation desire it to be true so their mind forms what ever vision that makes the host happy. Think about it. If we remembered past lives it would soon spoil this life. During this round in this system we will have thousands of lives. At some point it would be a confusing mess.
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MetalSlasher wrote:I wonder what I did to be born with Tourette Syndrome, ADHD, Depresison, and Anxiety.


Let me ask you. Are you bored?
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Franktalk wrote:
Maksutov wrote:How does this fit in with the millions who claim reincarnation, Frank?


We do go from one body to the next. Our memories however do not go into the new body. People who claim reincarnation desire it to be true so their mind forms what ever vision that makes the host happy. Think about it. If we remembered past lives it would soon spoil this life. During this round in this system we will have thousands of lives. At some point it would be a confusing mess.


It's already a confusing mess, Frank, and you haven't clarified it any. But thanks for playing. :wink:
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Maksutov wrote:
MetalSlasher wrote:I wonder what I did to be born with Tourette Syndrome, ADHD, Depresison, and Anxiety.


I knew a young man with all of those things. You didn't do anything to deserve it and neither did he. Please be careful and seek out competent and caring people to help you. My friend went through all kinds of weird "therapies", some of which were the subject of lawsuits later. He was also experimented on with medications, to his detriment. If you ever want to PM me to talk, please do.



Thanks man. My biggest consequences of medication experiments was one caused me to become suicidal until I was switched off of it, and one Olanzapine, otherwise known as Zyprexa, caused me to gain 90 pounds and I lost my good body. :evil:
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Franktalk wrote:
MetalSlasher wrote:I wonder what I did to be born with Tourette Syndrome, ADHD, Depresison, and Anxiety.


Let me ask you. Are you bored?



I am bored, but what makes you say that?
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MetalSlasher wrote:
Maksutov wrote:
I knew a young man with all of those things. You didn't do anything to deserve it and neither did he. Please be careful and seek out competent and caring people to help you. My friend went through all kinds of weird "therapies", some of which were the subject of lawsuits later. He was also experimented on with medications, to his detriment. If you ever want to PM me to talk, please do.



Thanks man. My biggest consequences of medication experiments was one caused me to become suicidal until I was switched off of it, and one Olanzapine, otherwise known as Zyprexa, caused me to gain 90 pounds and I lost my good body. :evil:


My friend started out with ADHD and developed the Tourettes symptoms after the medications. I was stunned to see how early psychiatrists were willing to prescribe stuff like Ritalin--we tried it out under doctor recommendations on my son when he was four--yes, FOUR--years old. It had awful effects and we discontinued it ASAP, but my friend continued with it beginning at a similar age and he only became worse. I am not down on psychiatry in general but I have a strong impression that ADHD has been overdiagnosed and overprescribed and too often without attendant therapy and other support. I'm sorry you've had such a bad experience.
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Thanks Mak. The funny thing is I've been told by a Bishop before that some of my sins committed, that were influenced by my Tourettes and other mental conditions won't be held accountable against me at judgment.
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