sock puppet wrote:In the presentation linked in the OP about wikileaks, it is asserted at 2:25 that 'as often happens a virtue, like information freedom, can be taken to an extreme and become a vice'. I wonder if Oaks and the Other 14 Clowns would agree that 'a virtue, like religious freedom, can be taken to an extreme and become a vice'?
What is a virtue for me can be a vice for thee.
So said every 'prophet' from Junior on down.
Next time the bully demands your lunch money tell him you left it on his mother's dresser.
It's incredible how ostensibly naïve they are. This is nuts!
Yeah. Like Trump referring to the cyber.
Minute 32 on in the Gordon Smith video really should result in the church losing its not for profit status. Dead serious about that. I hope a journalist who is capable gets it out to the right people.
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
Water Dog wrote:Simply awesome. Well, now we know why they don't live in a bubble. They get briefed about the outside world regularly.
Elder Ballard wrote:I have heard that some people think the Church leaders live in a ‘bubble.’ ... When you thoughtfully consider our lives and ministry, you will most likely agree that we see and experience the world in ways few others do. You will realize that we live less in a ‘bubble’ than most people.
Some of these videos are pretty profound in their implications. No wonder correlation council is a thing, the ship would have hit an iceberg long ago without it. And I love the dias with individual stations complete with large font quads for each apostle by the way...
I Lol'd during the wikileaks video when some was heard to ask if the stories about Bradley Manning and wiki leaks had been in the news.
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
What strikes me about these videos is that it lifts the mystery about the "going ons" behind closed doors among "Prophets and apostles."
Contrary to what Mormons love to think, it looks like a typical corporate meeting among a board of directors.
When you talk to Mormons they always talk about how these men are in constant prayer, study and reflection when they decide things. You never hear them talk about them kicking back and listening to someone do a power point presentation while they spitball and babble in different directions.
How Mormon is it to have the same guy giving "expert" briefings on topics ranging from credit default swaps to Somali pirates and the leadership is good with it?
That's crazy in and of itself. Guy gives middle school research paper mingled with scripture and that's God's chosen vehicle for keeping his kingdom up to speed. Yup, sounds right to me.
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
honorentheos wrote:How Mormon is it to have the same guy giving "expert" briefings on topics ranging from credit default swaps to Somali pirates and the leadership is good with it?
That's crazy in and of itself. Guy gives middle school research paper mingled with scripture and that's God's chosen vehicle for keeping his kingdom up to speed. Yup, sounds right to me.
I've watched a couple of these and am in shock. Boyd K. Packer was the chairman of the board of a life insurance company and that is what he thinks life insurance companies do? His remark revealed his incompetence. I wish I could see the video of when he was informed that the company he was leading was essentially bankrupt and needed major cash infusions from the Church to stay solvent.
Anyway, does anybody know who this guy is that lectures the apostles and what these meetings are called? And how often these meetings are held?
It appears that some time ago, they realized that as a group they had no clue what was going on in the world and in order to avoid being too embarrassed they needed somebody to lecture to them on a regular basis in a very slow, patronizing voice about things they'd know if they were in the habit of reading the front page of Th Wall Street Journal every day.
It’s relatively easy to agree that only Homo sapiens can speak about things that don’t really exist, and believe six impossible things before breakfast. You could never convince a monkey to give you a banana by promising him limitless bananas after death in monkey heaven.
EAllusion wrote:Oh my. This are incredibly significant. Not that'll happen, but this should be sufficient for the Church to lose its tax exempt status.
Did they endorse a candidate? the IRS won't give s*** unless they endorse a candidate.
Growing up I was taught Jesus was the MC of these meetings. Come to find out it's just an Asian-American. Or maybe that is Jesus? If so, they should really update their artwork.