The First Plastic First Family

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
The idea that people get plastic surgery not because they want to look better and to be evaluated by others more favorably is “F” ing laughable.

- Doc

totally disagree with your "by others" qualifier.
Aside from you having no real proof of your claim, it is reasonable to assume that plastic surgery is founded in a "look"...but it is also reasonable to consider that some people who get plastic surgery care only about how they look to themselves and not about how they look to others.
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I dunno, Schmo. I don't think I have a basis to conclude that they're kidding themselves, and I know them personally. I'm hesitant to say that I know more about their motivations better than they do.

I'll never get a tattoo, either. Or get a piercing. I don't see the attraction. When people tell me why they do, I tend to accept their explanation.
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The CCC wrote:
Cops don't see a good guy with a gun. What they see is a guy with a gun. Let's get real here instead of some wild west fantasy. It is you that be laying there is a pool of your own blood, "But officer I was a good guy with a gun".

either the matrix is confused or cut-n-paste has gone wild west
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Black Moclips wrote:The word snowflake must be your trigger Schmo. If you think citizens being armed and willing to defend themselves and others idiotic, I doubt I'll change your mind. I truly hope you, nor anyone else ever has to be in that situation to prove it one way or the other.


I have proved it in public.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Let me tell you something. If Big Pharma developed a safe and reliable pill that eliminated obesity/fatty deposits and encouraged lean muscle mass development all these Health at Every Size Love Muh Cuuuuuurves would be thin.

All of 'em.

They'd tell you they'd do it for themselves, they just want to feel whatever, but let me tell you... They'd do it to look hotter.

The idea that people get plastic surgery not because they want to look better and to be evaluated by others more favorably is “F” ing laughable.

- Doc


isn't claiming to know the motivations of millions of people you've never met “F” ing laughable?
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subgenius wrote:either the matrix is confused or cut-n-paste has gone wild west


Neither, just real life personal experience.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Let me tell you something. If Big pharmaceutical developed a safe and reliable pill that eliminated obesity/fatty deposits and encouraged lean muscle mass development all these Health at Every Size Love Muh Cuuuuuurves would be thin.

All of ''em.

They'd tell you they'd do it for themselves, they just want to feel whatever, but let me tell you... They'd do it to look hotter.

The idea that people get plastic surgery not because they want to look better and to be evaluated by others more favorably is **** ing laughable.

- Doc


isn't claiming to know the motivations of millions of people you've never met **** ing laughable?


Yes. But since this is a bull crap ting forum I'm not really worried about endlessly caveating statements so they cover ever conceivable exception.

- Doc
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Res Ipsa wrote:I dunno, Schmo. I don't think I have a basis to conclude that they're kidding themselves, and I know them personally. I'm hesitant to say that I know more about their motivations better than they do.

I'm trying to think of a scenario where you'd go for cosmetic surgery without caring what other people think, and coming up empty. How would the surgery all by itself make someone feel better about themselves? I suppose it's possible in theory, but it makes no sense to me.

I've heard that kind of elective surgery is pretty expensive. They'd have to have a pretty strong motivation to go through the hassle, expense, and potential risks involved just to feel a little better about themselves.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Res Ipsa wrote:I dunno, Schmo. I don't think I have a basis to conclude that they're kidding themselves, and I know them personally. I'm hesitant to say that I know more about their motivations better than they do.

I'm trying to think of a scenario where you'd go for cosmetic surgery without caring what other people think, and coming up empty. How would the surgery all by itself make someone feel better about themselves? I suppose it's possible in theory, but it makes no sense to me.

I've heard that kind of elective surgery is pretty expensive. They'd have to have a pretty strong motivation to go through the hassle, expense, and potential risks involved just to feel a little better about themselves.


That's the thing, Schmo. Remarkably, other people don't always think like I do. :wink:
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Res Ipsa wrote:That's the thing, Schmo. Remarkably, other people don't always think like I do. :wink:


There you go, Schmo. Now you know what talking to a Special Snowflake is like. This thread just got meta as “F”.

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