No Trump defenders left ...?

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Re: No Trump defenders left ...?

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Chap wrote:Can we just have an update on permitted practice on the question of 'modified quotes'?

It's a form of satire, so moderators won't touch it unless the originator doesn't appreciate the modification. In the latter case, he or she can ask me to delete or restore said modification, and I will as a courtesy.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Chap wrote:Can we just have an update on permitted practice on the question of 'modified quotes'?



It's a form of satire, so moderators won't touch it unless the originator doesn't appreciate the modification. In the latter case, he or she can ask me to delete or restore said modification, and I will as a courtesy.


Thanks. So if I see a change like the one below:

Kevin Graham wrote:
subgenius wrote:[edited quote deleted]


... where the KG insertion <duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu> or similar has been edited out, I shall assume that the poster satirised is a special sensitive snowflake who can't stand being mocked.
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first accomplishment - kept Hillary Clinton from being elected (huuuge)


Actually that was the Russians with Trump colluding with them. Yeah a HUGE accomplishment! :rolleyes:
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stock market (Dow) has been consistently rising


It went to record levels under Obama, and no, this is a lie, it just took a 200 point plunge a few days ago so it hasn't been "consistently" rising.

Last five days...
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2008 - under 8000 after taking a huge plunge under Bush (from a high of 14,000)
2017 - 19,900 last days of Obama Presidency

To attribute this to Trump is ridiculous.
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travel ban


Really? It's been struck down TWICE. Yeah quite an "accomplishment" there! :lol: How desperate do you have to be to list this as an accomplishment?
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Exxon moving jobs back


Already in place BEFORE Trump took office. Another desperate attempt to give Trump credit where no credit is due.

Exxon earlier on Monday announced its Growing the Gulf program, a $20 billion investment over 10 years that would bring 45,000 jobs to region. But that investment didn’t begin Monday — it started in 2013. ... Portions of the Exxon plan had been previously announced. A project in Beaumont, Texas, was announced in November. A 2015 story by the Houston Chronicle looked at expansion at Exxon’s Baytown facility as part of a report on growth in the petrochemical industry in the region.
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coal mines opened for 68,000 employees


Another lie. There are no jobs for that amount of people "opened".

It’s true that coal companies hated this rule and claimed it would’ve killed thousands of jobs, but an outside analysis found that the job impacts would be minimal: repealing the rule will only boost annual mining employment by 124 jobs. Total.http://www.vox.com/energy-and-environme ... ining-jobs
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debt reduced by $100 b

Attributing this to Trump is another lie... https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/arti ... -cash-flow
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Hasbro play doh jobs...

Hasbro executives told the Journal that their plans have nothing to do with President Donald Trump's plans to bring US manufacturing to the United States. http://www.masslive.com/business-news/i ... mundi.html


Another damned lie. Jesus, do I need to go on? And... the article claims that it is only 20 jobs! :lol:

Where it mattered, giving ALL AMERICANS low cost healthcare... Trump failed miserably.
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subgenius wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
He's in office less than 100 days and you're ready to judge him as successful? I'd like to see a list of his accomplishments and successes.

ahh, here is a short list - hope it helps!


first accomplishment - kept Hillary Clinton from being elected (huuuge)
employment numbers rose for January and February
coal mines opened for 68,000 employees
Bulk of cabinet members have already been approved, despite Democrat posturing
withdrew from TPP
reinstated the Mexico City policy (against foreign abortion company funding)
Keystone pipeline
ended "catch/release" immigration policy
ended sanctuary city funding
ended the ridiculous transgender bathroom order (leaves it up to individual States)
ordered agencies that for every 1 new regulation proposed 2 regulations must be eliminated
Nominated Supreme Court judge
reduced debt by $100B
has undermined ACA
budget proposal
travel ban
Philadelphia Fed Index highest since 1984
small/med business confidence at 12 year high (Reuters)
stock market (Dow) has been consistently rising
Samsung is coming back to US with 500 jobs and $300m
Exxon moving jobs back
Fiat investing $1B
Hasbro bringing Play-Doh manuf back to US
Illegal immigration from Mexico down 40% in first month
disrupted that rather stagnant nature of "status quo" politics inside the beltway
has forced the vast majority of Liberals to actually research and learn about their own country, their own Constitution, their own history.


Source for the coal employment figure? This appears nearly unchanged since last year. Reference:

https://alfred.stlouisfed.org/series?se ... ign=alfred

Choose option: All Employees: Mining and Logging

Also:
- Fiat investment has been in the works for well over a year.

- Stock market is backtracking on gains.

- Employment numbers for January and February really cannot be attributed to any Trump policy and are part of a rather long trend going on for years, now.

- Same for the Philadelphia Fed, with an 8-month solid upward trend - see: https://www.philadelphiafed.org/researc ... 17/bos0317

- The travel ban is dead again.

- An amicus brief is already challenging the poorly-written 'sanctuary city' executive order.

- The 'budget proposal' is only that, and is already facing fierce criticism even from some Republicans.

- Samsung proposal is unconfirmed. Will likely flame out like their phones.

- Failed leadership on the ACA has resulted in Republicans and Trump running away from allowing a vote.

- As for Play Doh: "Hasbro executives deny adding a U.S.-based output in response to warnings made by President Donald Trump. Trump has threatened to squeeze U.S. companies that produce their goods overseas by increasing taxes. The company says it was only seeking to increase production after a period of consistently solid Play-Doh sales." As reported by Fortune magazine.

We could look at more of your list, but I'm typing on a phone, and it's not worth debunking so much at such a slow rate of speed. :smile:

ETA: I see that Grindael is also picking this list apart.
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