Meet Kevin Graham

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_Kevin Graham
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Water Dog wrote:
Kevin Graham wrote:My wife's family is Brasilian, and they have gone through this on a regular basis, because in Brasil, the Church allows civil weddings before a temple sealing. But in the USA, Church policy is different. Karina's uncle was so pissed he told us we should just go through with it anyway. I mean what were they going to do, revoke my sealing?


Over on another thread Kevin is treating us all to a rant about how I jeopardized his wife's safety or something...


Jesus. Did a bee get in your bonnet? Been doing a lot of digging on me lately, eh?

And this is the best you can come up with to show I'm a hypocrite? By telling my story 8 years ago when I was living in Brazil, only after someone else started a thread about me?

Is this truly your best attempt to defend outing my wife's personal contact information to the world?
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I can't decide if water dog is a sock puppet for mentalgymast (based on him taking his whinyness to another thread ) or Will schryver (based on doctor scratch's assessment.)
Here's doctor scratch on the issue:
You realize that Water Dog is a Will Schryver sock puppet, right? Whether or not he's "trolling" is debatable, I suppose, but posters should at the very least be aware that this is Schryver they're dealing with.
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Has Water Dog ever denied being Will Schryver? He used a lot of the same terminology.

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Lemmie wrote:I can't decide if water dog is a sock puppet for mentalgymast (based on him taking his whinyness to another thread ) or Will schryver (based on doctor scratch's assessment.)


Pretty much from day 1, I suspected he was Schryver. If memory serves, he adamantly denied it when the subject was brought up. But can you blame him? Who in their right mind would want to admit to being Schryver?
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Lemmie wrote:I can't decide if water dog is a sock puppet for mentalgymast (based on him taking his whinyness to another thread ) or Will schryver (based on doctor scratch's assessment.)
Here's doctor scratch on the issue:
You realize that Water Dog is a Will Schryver sock puppet, right? Whether or not he's "trolling" is debatable, I suppose, but posters should at the very least be aware that this is Schryver they're dealing with.
mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=793751#p793751


If that is the case, it looks like the account was registered when I wasn't here.

So we've now got two shitshows in progress. Rosebud and this one. I move that we start numbering them so we don't lose track. Could be a busy summer, folks.
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Re: Meet Kevin Graham

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Has Water Dog ever denied being Will Schryver? He used a lot of the same terminology.

- Doc


I think it could being either Will or Bill. Def one of Dan's lapdogs. He's mentioned Dan twice for no reason. I stopped picking on Dan many years ago but this guy still holds a grudge about it and acts like I'm an active "stalker." Whatever.

2) He put his wife's name on this message board.


I mentioned her first name, eight years ago, while living in Brazil, six full years before she became an agent. You come along many years later, after she moves to the country where the majority of my haters live, and post everything anyone would need to know about her, short of her Social Security number.

3) He put up a public Facebook page with a picture of both himself and his wife, and both of their names, advertising their shared job.


I've never posted my Facebook page here and my Facebook page does not share with my wife at all. You just made that up. In fact, I intentionally misspelled my name on Facebook for a reason. Because I do not want people I do not know searching for me.

I won't repeat what that job is, but the relevant point is that it's the sort where people intentionally try to get noticed online.


Which is why we have our own separate business Facebook pages, neither or which are connected to each other. We do have business cards for the Graham Realty Team with both of us on it but I have never shared that here or

4) Extending from #3, both he and his wife put up lots of public social media profiles of themselves on a lot of different websites... for the specific purpose of providing her and his personal contact information.


Um, no we don't. You're just guessing. Or better yet, you're just flat out lying. But even if we did, none of that changes the fact that you outed my wife on this forum knowing full well it was against the rules and against every moral principle you were preaching about when I did it.
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Water Dog wrote:1) He goes by his in real life (in real life) name.
2) He put his wife's name on this message board.
3) He put up a public Facebook page with a picture of both himself and his wife, and both of their names, advertising their shared job. I won't repeat what that job is, but the relevant point is that it's the sort where people intentionally try to get noticed online.
4) Extending from #3, both he and his wife put up lots of public social media profiles of themselves on a lot of different websites... for the specific purpose of providing her and his personal contact information.

True on all counts, but the key point is that (regarding points 3 and 4) he didn't link to any of those profiles or pages here. Everyone has the right to keep their MormonDiscussions lives hermetically sealed away from their real lives if they desire.

Kevin's behavior right at this moment indicates he isn't concerned about his wife's safety or her personal contact information being linked to his behavior online.

Haven't you read what he's written?
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I've made it perfectly clear that I do not believe anyone is in any inherent danger from anyone on this forum. I could be wrong, but I do not believe it is the case.

But WD misses the point yet again. I'm not saying my wife is in danger because of him. If I thought that were true I would have reported his post the second he posted it. Let's remember that WD claimed deleting my posts was necessary for the well being of Droopy's wife and children. So my point is that he is contradicting himself as to the reasons for his concerns.

Now after watching him do all sorts of mental backflips to excuse himself from having done anything that could potentially endanger my wife, let him now explain again how my posts have caused great harm to Droopy and his family.
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Re: Meet Kevin Graham

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Has Water Dog ever denied being Will Schryver? He used a lot of the same terminology.

- Doc


Nevermind. I just put 2 + 2 together. It's Schryver.

Wow. When did he leave the Church? That's a really interesting development, and I would love to read his story. Regardless, now his hard-on for Graham and his soft spot of the evil Mr. Bean of Mormon apologetics makes sense.

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: Meet Kevin Graham

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Really? Will is that you? Speak up tell us what happened
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