Joseph Smith & a LITERAL 3500 Year Old Abraham Autograph

[_Shulem]

Again, I question that. There were esoteric teachings which the symbols represented that were reserved for the “initiated,” and were not revealed to everyone. In other words, what you think you have discovered may not be all that is there.

This is nonsense that you are pulling out of thin air in attempt to defend Joseph Smith's false Egyptology of Facsimile No. 3. Pure bunk. It's a useless attempt to sound fancy and mysterious, couching yourself in some kind of pseudo science that magically saves your Explanations of Facsimile No. 3. No one, other than ignorant brainwashed Mormons is going to buy this story.

Show me the royal cartouche in Facsimile No. 3 that bears the name of the king that Joseph Smith revealed was in the writing. Where is the royal cartouche -- the most sacred sign of ancient Egypt? What is the name? The Explanation given by Joseph Smith is no more true than the Book of Mormon -- all lies.

You, zerinus, are peddling garbage, gasping at straws and making claims in which you cannot scientifically support. Just throw anything up in the air and see if it sticks. Bear testimony and keep telling yourself it's true. I'll tell you what. You want to test Joseph Smith's theory? Reach hither your hand under the kilt of the so called king in Facsimile No. 3 and see if he has a pair of balls. That will tell you whether it's really a man or a women. But be prepared for Isis to slap you right across the face. You mock ancient Egypt. You commit blasphemy against the gods of the Two Lands. You belittle Egyptology. You shun science in order to defend your self made testimony of Mormon lies.

[_zerinus]

This is nonsense that you are pulling out of thin air in attempt to defend Joseph Smith's false Egyptology of Facsimile No. 3. Pure bunk. It's a useless attempt to sound fancy and mysterious, couching yourself in some kind of pseudo science that magically saves your Explanations of Facsimile No. 3. No one, other than ignorant brainwashed Mormons is going to buy this story.

Show me the royal cartouche in Facsimile No. 3 that bears the name of the king that Joseph Smith revealed was in the writing. Where is the royal cartouche -- the most sacred sign of ancient Egypt? What is the name? The Explanation given by Joseph Smith is no more true than the Book of Mormon -- all lies.

You, zerinus, are peddling garbage, gasping at straws and making claims in which you cannot scientifically support. Just throw anything up in the air and see if it sticks. Bear testimony and keep telling yourself it's true. I'll tell you what. You want to test Joseph Smith's theory? Reach hither your hand under the kilt of the so called king in Facsimile No. 3 and see if he has a pair of balls. That will tell you whether it's really a man or a women. But be prepared for Isis to slap you right across the face. You mock ancient Egypt. You commit blasphemy against the gods of the Two Lands. You belittle Egyptology. You shun science in order to defend your self made testimony of Mormon lies.

Look, we all know that you don't believe in the supernatural and the divine, and that is okay. Lots of people don't. There are others, however, who do. And arguing your case from the "scientific" or "Egyptological" perspective does not make you any more "persuasive" or "convincing" to those who are not of your persuasion. You are wasting your time.

[_Shulem]

Look, we all know that you don't believe in the supernatural and the divine, and that is okay. Lots of people don't. There are others, however, who do. And arguing your case from the "scientific" or "Egyptological" perspective does not make you any more "persuasive" or "convincing" to those who are not of your persuasion. You are wasting your time.

Where do you get off telling everyone here what I don't believe in? More lies and assumptions out of your mouth? I don't believe in Bible god or Mormon god. That's it! That doesn't mean that I don't have ideas or beliefs in things supernatural or divine. You, zerinus, misrepresent me in your dishonest statement.

My argument of things Egyptian from a "scientific" or "Egyptological" point of view most certainly makes my case stronger and more convincing than the pseudo Egyptology Joseph Smith was peddling. Reporting science and Egyptology correctly is not a waste of time. It does, however, threaten your testimony and enlighten nonbelievers about the dangers of Mormonism and how that mind sucking cult attempts to persuade people to dump logic and reason and embrace the silly teachings of Joseph Smith.

No, it's not a waste of time, and I rebuke you in the name of science and Egyptology. Your founding prophet had no idea what he was doing. He was making crap up off the top of his head. He had no idea what was going on in Facsimile No. 3 and his Explanations are utter rubbish.

I know you can't find the royal cartouche in the writing because it's not there. Neither is there a king's name. It's simply not there. Neither is the fictitious Egyptian name "Shulem" in the writing. It's simply not there. Joseph Smith's numbers don't add up. It's bad math. It's bad Egyptology. It's a total mockery of sacred things had by a race of people who lived long ago. Mormons trample all over those beliefs and have zero respect for the ancient Egyptian religion. It's an utter disgrace. You Mormons really are a classless people. Shameful and liars.

[_Shulem]

And arguing your case from the "scientific" or "Egyptological" perspective does not make you any more "persuasive" or "convincing" to those who are not of your persuasion. You are wasting your time.

The entire world outside of Mormonism will agree with my persuasive argument using conventional Egyptology and science. It is ONLY the Mormons that will disagree. Hence, it's the Mormons and their pseudo Egyptology and manmade revelations about Facsimile No. 3 against the entire world. Actually, it is you who are wasting time defending the lies of your founding prophet. No one is going to believe you other than brainwashed Mormons. Not. A. Single. Soul.

[_Shulem]

This is true, but irrelevant to the subject at hand. Science can and does know things, plenty of things that religion has backed down and now accepted from science, even though religion had it originally (and incorrectly) from God, or so they claim. We actually do have enough science of Egyptology to correctly translate Joseph Smith's papyri he owned and claimed he translated. He didn't translate it right however. Sure there are things science doesn't know, but this is one that it does know. Joseph Smith translated the papyri wrong. You are just pretending to be thick in order not to have to deal with it. I KNOW that's what you do, because I was once in your mindset, and it's what we all did. You fool no one here, other than the man in the mirror.

Zerinus (Benjamin McGuire) refuses to admit that the personage Joseph Smith identified as a king (man) in Facsimile No. 3 is really a lady. He just can't get himself to admit that. It must really eat him up. It must also eat him up that the goddess Maat is really a lady, not a boy like Joseph Smith thought.

Silly, stupid Mormons.

[_I have a question]

Shulam owns the facsimiles. Owns them.

[_zerinus]

Where do you get off telling everyone here what I don't believe in? More lies and assumptions out of your mouth? I don't believe in Bible god or Mormon god. That's it! That doesn't mean that I don't have ideas or beliefs in things supernatural or divine. You, zerinus, misrepresent me in your dishonest statement.

My argument of things Egyptian from a "scientific" or "Egyptological" point of view most certainly makes my case stronger and more convincing than the pseudo Egyptology Joseph Smith was peddling. Reporting science and Egyptology correctly is not a waste of time. It does, however, threaten your testimony and enlighten nonbelievers about the dangers of Mormonism and how that mind sucking cult attempts to persuade people to dump logic and reason and embrace the silly teachings of Joseph Smith.

No, it's not a waste of time, and I rebuke you in the name of science and Egyptology. Your founding prophet had no idea what he was doing. He was making crap up off the top of his head. He had no idea what was going on in Facsimile No. 3 and his Explanations are utter rubbish.

I know you can't find the royal cartouche in the writing because it's not there. Neither is there a king's name. It's simply not there. Neither is the fictitious Egyptian name "Shulem" in the writing. It's simply not there. Joseph Smith's numbers don't add up. It's bad math. It's bad Egyptology. It's a total mockery of sacred things had by a race of people who lived long ago. Mormons trample all over those beliefs and have zero respect for the ancient Egyptian religion. It's an utter disgrace. You Mormons really are a classless people. Shameful and liars.

The Book of Mormon is true. You can go and kill yourself if you like; but it won't make that statement any less true.

[_I have a question]

The Book of Mormon is true. You can go and kill yourself if you like; but it won't make that statement any less true.

If that doesn't deserve a ban, I don't know what does.

[Guest]

The entire world outside of Mormonism will agree with my persuasive argument using conventional Egyptology and science. It is ONLY the Mormons that will disagree. Hence, it's the Mormons and their pseudo Egyptology and manmade revelations about Facsimile No. 3 against the entire world.

The "entire world outside of Mormonism" "agreed" with you long before Egyptology or science had progressed far enough to make you think you have figured it all. It doesn't take much to persuade the "entire world outside of Mormonism" that Mormonism is not true. They are persuaded of that already. You are not accomplishing as much as you think you are.

Actually, it is you who are wasting time defending the lies of your founding prophet. No one is going to believe you other than brainwashed Mormons. Not. A. Single. Soul.

Of course they do. Thousands of people are persuaded that Mormonism is true and become Mormons every year. And you know what persuades them? The Book of Mormon! God reveals to them that it is true, so they become Mormons—your skepticism notwithstanding.

[Guest]

The Book of Mormon is true. You can go and kill yourself if you like; but it won't make that statement any less true.

If that doesn't deserve a ban, I don't know what does.

LOL! You have run out of answers to give; so you want to have banned! How pathetically stupid can you get.