Joseph Smith & a LITERAL 3500 Year Old Abraham Autograph

[_zerinus]

Philo, I think it would be beneficial if you could condense the chapter just a little. There tends to be a lot of repeating of the same points, but I can understand your zeal and zest in wanting to do that. But make the point and move on by not repeating it quite so much and consider removing portions of a statement that don't provide extra support to the original point you're making. Keep it organized and tight. Don't be so wordy. Just make the point and move on to the next point.

Otherwise, good job and keep it up.

His anti-Mormon "scholarship" is as useless, worthless, and boring as his Mormon "apologetics scholarship" used to be. Nothing has changed.

[Guest]

His anti-Mormon "scholarship" is as useless, worthless, and boring as his Mormon "apologetics scholarship" used to be. Nothing has changed.

ZERINUS BELIEVES GIRLS HAVE A PENIS AND TESTICLES

[X] Yes
[ ] No



The Book of Abraham told me so

[_Shulem]

Facsimile No. 3 Fig. 2.

This is Isis, a chief goddess of Egypt. Joseph Smith said the character is a king of Egypt, a man. My question for zerinus:

Do you believe this person has a penis or a vagina? Just answer the question!

[X] Penis
[ ] Vagina

The Book of Abraham told me so

[_Shulem]

Facsimile No. 3 Fig. 4.

This is Maat, a goddess of Egypt. Joseph Smith said the character is a boy. My question for zerinus is:

Do you believe this person has a penis or a vagina? Just answer the question!

[X] Penis
[ ] Vagina

The Book of Abraham told me so

[_zerinus]

For Shulem:

I don’t believe we know enough about these figures and characters, or Egyptologists know enough about them, or have discovered enough information about them to be able to say with certainty what they represent or have always represented, or whether their meaning and significance have always been the same or undergone changes and transformations over the course of their history. What I do know with absolute certainty is that Joseph Smith was a true prophet who was able to receive revelation from God, and that the Book of Abraham that he translated is a true and genuine record. Therefore I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, and accept what he said on faith, and believe that when everything that there is to be known on the subject is known or revealed, that he will be vindicated in his claims. You have learned a little bit about Egyptology and think you know everything. You don’t. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

[_I have a question]

For Shulem:

I don’t believe we know enough about these figures and characters, or Egyptologists know enough about them, or have discovered enough information about them to be able to say with certainty what they represent or have always represented, or whether their meaning and significance have always been the same or undergone changes and transformations over the course of their history. What I do know with absolute certainty is that Joseph Smith was a true prophet who was able to receive revelation from God, and that the Book of Abraham that he translated is a true and genuine record. Therefore I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, and accept what he said on faith, and believe that when everything that there is to be known on the subject is known or revealed, that he will be vindicated in his claims. You have learned a little bit about Egyptology and think you know everything. You don’t. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

In terms of the things Joseph Smith has claimed, can you give us some examples of his historical or translatory claims that science or other areas of knowledge have subsequently vindicated?

[_zerinus]

In terms of the things Joseph Smith has claimed, can you give us some examples of his historical or translatory claims that science or other areas of knowledge have subsequently vindicated?

Read again what I said. You might understand it better this time round.

[_I have a question]

In terms of the things Joseph Smith has claimed, can you give us some examples of his historical or translatory claims that science or other areas of knowledge have subsequently vindicated?

Read again what I said. You might understand it better this time round.

So no examples then. Thought not.

[_zerinus]

So no examples then. Thought not.

Answer the same.

[_I have a question]

So no examples then. Thought not.

Answer the same.

What I do know with absolute certainty is...that the Book of Abraham that he translated is a true and genuine record.

Define specifically what you mean, within the context of the Book of Abraham, by the terms "true" and "genuine".