Joseph Smith & a LITERAL 3500 Year Old Abraham Autograph

[_zerinus]

Yes he does and he has owned it for years. zerinus doesn't fully realize who he's arguing with. Fun to watch from the sidelines, I can tell you that much!

Well, thanks.

I just sent a PM to Kevin Graham telling him about this thread. I hope he joins in. By the time we are done with zerinus, he'll wish he was never born.

What an idiotic comment.

[_zerinus]

The early saints didn't misunderstand anything about Joseph Smith's claims . . .

The early Saints misunderstood a lot of things about Joseph Smith’s claims.

The Mormons also believed they had royal mummies in their midst because they got that idea from none other than President Smith. The evidence and testimonies are unmistakable. Joseph Smith actually thought one of them was a king of Egypt! It's a matter of record, zerinus! . . .

Show me the record. Joseph Smith says in his history that he is not prepared to comment on Identity of the mummies. You are making stuff up as you go along.

[_zerinus]

Zerinus responded to excellent questions by Shulem

Wasting time. Not interested.

But Joseph Smith was. Your own prophet was VERY interested in these matters. What's your problem dough boy?

I bet he wasn’t interested in you and Shulem’s nonsense, which is what I had in mind, since you hadn’t figured.

[_zerinus]

Ha! I beat ya posting the same information by a mere two minutes Shulem........ just call me fast fingers Fred....

He is just parroting you, since he has nothing else left to say.

[_Jersey Girl]

Zerinus, which is easier for you to believe?

1. The papyrus was an original autograph -- some 4,000 years old
2. One of the mummies was a king of Egypt

Wasting time. Not interested. Have a nice day.

What? You weren't done yet?

What an idiotic comment.

Show me the record. Joseph Smith says in his history that he is not prepared to comment on Identity of the mummies. You are making stuff up as you go along.

I bet he wasn’t interested in you and Shulem’s nonsense, which is what I had in mind, since you hadn’t figured.

He is just parroting you, since he has nothing else left to say.

[_zerinus]

What? You weren't done yet?

Couldn’t resist pointing out that dumb comments, especially yours!

[_Shulem]

The early saints didn't misunderstand anything about Joseph Smith's claims . . .

The early Saints misunderstood a lot of things about Joseph Smith’s claims.

I'm sure they did. Mormonism and the it's GHOST are a house of confusion - divided in its beliefs. But what has that to do with this particular subject?

You can't honestly tell me that the saints who were present in President Smith's personal office (having the key to unlock his door) giving tours of the ancient relics were misinformed and misrepresenting the prophet?

You want me to believe Smith's special representatives speaking to the the press (including Smith's own mother) misunderstood President Smith's beliefs about age and authenticity of the papyrus? Really?

[_Philo Sofee]

Zerinus

The early Saints misunderstood a lot of things about Joseph Smith’s claims.

Today's saints, like you, are all in the same boat. Your ignorance is palpable.

[_Philo Sofee]

Ha! I beat ya posting the same information by a mere two minutes Shulem........ just call me fast fingers Fred....

He is just parroting you, since he has nothing else left to say.

Well you certainly haven't refuted much of anything shown. We knew you couldn't. Your cocksureness is misplaced, as everyone can see. All you can show is that you think everything is dumb comments, a dumb way to go about it. But it is your method.

[_Shulem]

Show me the record. Joseph Smith says in his history that he is not prepared to comment on Identity of the mummies. You are making stuff up as you go along.

Me make stuff up? Isn't it rather you're just not informed? So you read one quote in proMormon context and that's it. You've been deceived by proMormon apologetics. The matter was settled, many statements (at least 8) were made and Joseph Smith was ALWAYS wrong about anything he ever said about the mummies and their papyrus. Everything Joseph Smith ever said was wrong! Dead wrong.

I'll just start with the conclusion which your own religious institution admitted back in the day but has since covered up. You choke on it.

THE ACADEMIC REVIEW (BYU Academy)
Vol. 1, No. 6, March,1885

"The mummies were identified as those of a king, a queen, a princess, and a slave."

Also, Mormon scholar Jay Todd the author of "The Saga of the Book of Abraham", grudgingly sums it up:

"We certainly seem to have a king in our midst"

"Her (Emma Smith) report that one of the mummies was a pharaoh cannot be easily dismissed, however. It seems clear that one of the Lebolo mummies had been identified by the Prophet ― tentatively or otherwise ― as a pharaoh"
(Ibid p. 258,292)

Zerinus, what was that about me making stuff up?