MG & JLHPROF: From Whence Come Spiritual Experiences?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

From what I understand, MG is suggesting that expecting God to visit you and explain himself is akin, just to draw an analogy, to expect Ray Croc to visit you personally and explain why you should eat at McDonald's over Wendy's. Not only would Ray Croc not have the time to do that, but it's beneath him to do it.

Granted the analogy is poor because Ray Croc isn't all-powerful and all-present, whatever that means in Mormon theology, but then again Ray Croc isn't demanding you eat at McD's or face eternal damnation. The consequences within the purported religious narrative are much greater for the patron than it is for the Owner.

I'll notice MG refused to define god's left and right limits so I could come up with a reasonable scenario where his god could grant some face time to the questioner, so I'm sure he's not really that invested in the idea that his god can't do it.

And Aero, you make a very good point. If God could speak simultaneously or at least get his message out to hundreds of billions of spirits to the point of them being fully informed of their decision to follow Him or not, then it's not unreasonable to expect the same. Unless, of course, the pre-existence was just another iteration of this earthly existence and God used Facebook ads and spokesmen to proxy for him.

- Doc

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[_Nightlion]

Why bully fellas who are clueless about spiritual experience?

Do you recognise the bullying inherent in your question?

I have not bothered to read the thread.

This renders your contribution self indulgent and self absorbed. You wish people to read your contribution whilst stating up front you cannot be bothered to read theirs. Based on your contributions to this forum, your Christ, were he to exist in the form you have created, would disown you.

Dismissive are you? That makes you the bully. And crybaby tit mouse.

[_Tator]

MG/JHHPROF/Zeranius your Mormon God is impotent, less powerful than the internet, television and other systems of mass communication.

[_sock puppet]

MG/JHHPROF/Zeranius your Mormon God is impotent, less powerful than the internet, television and other systems of mass communication.

Their Mormon god is certainly handicapped and challenged when it comes to communication. When it comes to communication, Internet 1, Mormon god 0. Boo-yah!

[_The Soap Maker]

How so? How would you arrange for a 'face-to-face' for yourself and everyone else on the planet with God? I'm simply pointing out some logistics problems. But go for it, I'm open to some suggestions as to how God might do it.

Soap Face and others have suggested that this might be the way in which they might believe. I'm saying, good luck with that.

Regards,
MG

Soap Face? lol. Dude, I think Doc, Lemmie, and the rest are getting to you (again). All I did was answer your hypothetical questions and your response was the no-duh response of "good luck, man". I don't get why you asked the questions in the first place, other than to let us all know the obvious - it ain't happening.

If god exists, it isn't talking to anybody. Sure, there are some self-proclaimed prophets, but until god learns to overcome time and space (logistical problems) to be able to clearly communicate this to us, we are just putting our faith in other human beings.

[_Themis]

We could speculate any number of reasons for why a hypothetical god either couldn't or by choice wouldn't prove his existence.

Feel free. I cannot think of reasons God could not communicate given LDS definitions of who/what God is. The only speculation MG and others have given for why God chooses not to is blind faith. Supposedly God likes blind faith.

[_Lemmie]

I'll notice MG refused to define god's left and right limits so I could come up with a reasonable scenario where his god could grant some face time to the questioner, so I'm sure he's not really that invested in the idea that his god can't do it.

Come on now, you're just trolling. Unsophisticated trolling at that. He can't define these limits and demanding such isn't reasonable. Especially in the context of how this thread is framed. A low resolution belief need not be based on precise definitions. We could speculate any number of reasons for why a hypothetical god either couldn't or by choice wouldn't prove his existence.

Maybe you missed that Doc's question was in direct response to mentalgymnast's question regarding how God would do it:

How so? How would you arrange for a 'face-to-face' for yourself and everyone else on the planet with God? I'm simply pointing out some logistics problems. But go for it, I'm open to some suggestions as to how God might do it.

[The] Soap [Maker] and others have suggested that this might be the way in which they might believe. I'm saying, good luck with that.

Regards,
MG

[brackets added by me, to correct mg's name error]

Well. To answer your question we'd need to know your god's left and right limits on the power he possesses over space and time. The floor is yours and then I'll give you an answer.

- Doc

I agree mentalgymnast can't define those limits. Asking others to do it for him instead of answering a direct question is an attempt to deflect. Doc asked him to clarify, which pointed out the absurdity of mentalgymnast's position.

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