Lemmie wrote:thanks, that helps in understanding the situation. For example, when grindael announced he was chosen to present at the Whitmer conference and showed us some of his research and mentalgymnast posted the below about his in real life, I made the mistake of defending grindael:
mentalgymnast wrote:by the way, loser, we are already well aware that you don't believe in the Divine calling of Joseph Smith...so what's your point in preaching to the choir? You already know you're gonna just get high fives. So what's your point? Much ado about nothing, isn't it?
You're a loser, grindael. Ya, I know I just called you a loser. But the shoe fits.
EAllusion wrote:Yeah, report stuff like that. That's clearly a rule violation that I would've moved. It would've added, in my mind anyway, to a body of evidence that he was a repeat offender not following warnings. If it happens again, he's on the queue. It's only going to take one legitimate report. I favored queuing him now, but Shades' take is just a hair away from that.
Thanks, EA, it's always helpful to hear your take on things. I appreciate your input very much.
Water Dog wrote: ^^ See what I mean? No offense Shulem, but you are derailer #1. Literally every single thread on the board gets littered with your "Facsimile No. 3" rantings. Every. Single. One.
I must say that you've dealt quite well, you've hardly complained about it. My hat is off to you for that. Well done.
Water Dog wrote:You bring up these examples of DCP. Uh, the whole dern board is practically dedicated to stalking that man. Without exaggeration, has a week ever gone by without at least one DCP thread? I came along and commented how disgusting I thought people's behavior was in that recent "hypothetical" thread, shortly after which it finally got moderated. I'm not sure if I had anything to do with moderators finally showing up, but it had been going on for a while prior to that point, an embarrassing spectacle.
I have always been bothered by that. As a relative latecomer I missed the apparently traumatizing era when DCP showed up here. If people want to attack his poor scholarship and personal vindictiveness, fine, but it often turns into meanspirited fat shaming sessions. Ugly and counterproductive.
Water Dog wrote:Maybe I'm just not seeing the threads where this is happening? I see the opposite. How many times has there been a thread that literally bore MG's name in the subject, inviting him to be harassed, where it would turn into pages and pages of MG vs. everyone? He's the go-to punching bag around here.
I've been harassed by many people myself and rarely seen anybody rise up in defense or talk about "moderation." Where were these calls to civility a few months ago when Jersey Girl was wish casting me to hell, as one example? Or when Lemmie stalks every single comment demanding an answer to a question that was already answered 50 comments back? Grindael himself can be a pretty intense character. From MG's perspective he probably got stalked first... and he might be right. Dunno. Point being, I'm not sure you understand how thick the bias is around here.
You bring up these examples of DCP. Uh, the whole dern board is practically dedicated to stalking that man. Without exaggeration, has a week ever gone by without at least one DCP thread? I came along and commented how disgusting I thought people's behavior was in that recent "hypothetical" thread, shortly after which it finally got moderated. I'm not sure if I had anything to do with moderators finally showing up, but it had been going on for a while prior to that point, an embarrassing spectacle.
Water Dog wrote:If people do not want MG banned, then specifics would be helpful. What, specifically, would you like to see done?
Screw the moderation list, the lack of moderation man power to daily follow and maintain this is very painful to them personally. This plays a big part in the dragging of feet to move to this tactic.
'Ban' has always been an anti-christ type of concept here at MDB (the ultimate enemy). It seldom has been employed. However, 'suspend' does not carry the anti-free speech fear as much. Suspend me for saying buck (with a capital F) when I know better. Continue to extend the suspension period if/as I continue with the violations. Warn, suspend, extend suspend, extend suspend to infinity.
Kishkumen wrote: It really gets me when people leave and don't come back. So many have, though. You would think I would be used to it now. Beastie, Blixa, Runtu, Darth J, Stak, truth dancer, Ray A, Eric, Nyal, now IHAQ, grindael. Grindael really hurts because his posts are absolutely indispensable primary source material.
beastie posts in Paradise on a fairly regular basis. There are many posting in Paradise who simply lost interest in LDS related discussions. I believe that beastie fits that category.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
I stepped down as a Moderator because of all of the Scratch drama. There were many here who were upset with me, and didn't want me moderating anymore.
I'm not sure if the attitudes here have changed in any way, but if Shades and you guys would like me to Moderate the board again, I would be more than happy to do so.
So you're chasing around a fly and in your world, I'm the idiot?
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I don't know why people didn't just put him on ignore. I have him on ignore now, and if I see a post of his quoted I just scroll past it.
Y'all adults. You're asking other adults to moderate your behavior for you. Look. I think Grindael and IHAQ are the cat's pajamas. They're lambs. But they're adult ____ ing males. Grindael could literally have placed derptard on ignore and drove on.
G-man chose his own behavior and while I stand in personal solidarity with him I really don't like this idea of control just being ceded over to more people who will, they WILL, have subjective moderating standards.
We actually have really good moderation right now, and we have good control measures in place. You know what the best control measure is? It's self-control.
- Doc
This.
And that's why last Wednesday, on a dedicated thread for all to see, I offered to do just that. But the poster in question left anyway. My solution would have solved the percieved problem. Self moderation. It had come to a point where I didn't want to see the "fracas" continue.
For some reason my solution to the perceived problem wasn't acceptable.
Notice that I've said "perceived problem". My other posts upthread on pg.1 and pg. 2 go into a bit of detail as to why I describe it this way.
Maksutov wrote: As a relative latecomer I missed the apparently traumatizing era when DCP showed up here. If people want to attack his poor scholarship and personal vindictiveness, fine, but it often turns into meanspirited fat shaming sessions. Ugly and counterproductive.
I missed that era as well. But now my comments about his poor scholarship are apparently causing Kishkumen to get some negative feedback--what's up with that?!? There seem to be a lot of eyes on our humble little board.
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This may be a lame question, but oh well, can a poster be q'd from threads that are authored by a certain poster?
In other words, can MG be put on the q for grindael's OP threads? And maybe DrW threads? The rest are fair game unless there are reports/rule violations/personal stuff/////etc. fill in the slashes. ???
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2 different threads same day 2 hours apart Yohoo Bat 12/1/2015
