Did leaving religion change your ethics?

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_honorentheos
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Re: Did leaving religion change your ethics?

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RockSlider wrote:
Yahoo Bot wrote:I would like to know rather if the posters on this board are divorced.

While it is politically incorrect to say, and I'm embarrassed to make the argument, it seems there is a high correlation between (1) anonymous posters critical of the Church and (2) divorce.

If I were to speculate, I'd say there is a sub rosa instinct among divorced persons to lash out at other than their own personal moral failings, and whether it be Judaism, the Catholic Church or Mormonism, the big Church is a likely target.

Just sayin'.


Where the heck is that coming from????

Married, one and only woman for 36 years now. How about you Bot? How many wives have you had? Are you still married?

It strikes me as our good fortune to have a Mormon show up and make an example of his own thinking regarding ethics to help prove the point it results in damage to a person's ability to make actual moral judgements rather than merely parrot the views of some bizarre moral code contrived by the intellectual descendants of Joe Smith, money digger and serial adulterer.
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_Stem
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Re: Did leaving religion change your ethics?

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Yahoo Bot wrote: and I'm embarrassed to make the argument


I'm embarrassed for you.

, it seems there is a high correlation between (1) anonymous posters critical of the Church and (2) divorce.


Well get your study ready. "It seems" is merely your prejudice on this front. I would agree with others that divorce is probably more common amongst couples who started off Mormon and one or both losing belief in the Church. Maybe more of a problem with Mormon culture than anything.

I'm not divorced, never have been, to be clear, frank and all that.
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Re: Did leaving religion change your ethics?

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23 years going strong with my wife. But then again, I don't really lash out at anything, except KitKats or other milk chocolate candies in close proximity.
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Re: Did leaving religion change your ethics?

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Yes!!! My unconditional love kicked in all over my world!! I am less afraid to be honest and less afraid of change.

I am more open and have some integrity in standing up to what I feel is right..or wrong.
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Yes, I became MORE ethical and honest.
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Re: Did leaving religion change your ethics?

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Yahoo Bot wrote:While it is politically incorrect to say, and I'm embarrassed to make the argument, it seems there is a high correlation between (1) anonymous posters critical of the Church and (2) divorce.

That's because the church teaches its disciples that they can't achieve exaltation unless they're married to a believing spouse who has undergone all the same rituals.

If I were to speculate, I'd say there is a sub rosa instinct among divorced persons to lash out at other than their own personal moral failings, and whether it be Judaism, the Catholic Church or Mormonism, the big Church is a likely target.

No, there's an instinct for believing members to divorce now-unbelieving spouses thanks to the teachings their own church inculcated into them.
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_Phaedrus Ut
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Re: Did leaving religion change your ethics?

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When I lost belief in the church I decided to evaluate all of my beliefs to determine what beliefs were authentically my own or ones I assumed as a conservative Mormon.

For me I became much more compassionate and gained much more empathy. I also became a better parent and hopefully a better person. I am more willing to admit fault and apologize. I'm 99% less homophobic and racist but I realize I'm imperfect and trying to be better.

One thing I resolved to do was to speak out against prejudice, intolerance, and hateful speech. If someone says something like that around me I speak up and tell them in disagree with their prejudice. Ultimately it was this personal goal to oppose immorality that led to my resignation from the LDS church after the policy change.

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Re: Did leaving religion change your ethics?

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Phaedrus Ut wrote:When I lost belief in the church I decided to evaluate all of my beliefs to determine what beliefs were authentically my own or ones I assumed as a conservative Mormon.

For me I became much more compassionate and gained much more empathy. I also became a better parent and hopefully a better person. I am more willing to admit fault and apologize. I'm 99% less homophobic and racist but I realize I'm imperfect and trying to be better.

One thing I resolved to do was to speak out against prejudice, intolerance, and hateful speech. If someone says something like that around me I speak up and tell them in disagree with their prejudice. Ultimately it was this personal goal to oppose immorality that led to my resignation from the LDS church after the policy change.

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Re: Did leaving religion change your ethics?

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@yahoo bot, seriously??? I thought you were more educated than that. by the way, just celebrated my 15 year anniversary.

@Phaedrus, I would also like to state you perfectly defined my experience. Thank you!
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Re: Did leaving religion change your ethics?

Post by _Doctor CamNC4Me »

Sure. It forced me to conduct an ongoing metaethical analysis of not only myself and my interactions with others, but to try and understand the how and why we do what we do. It's brought me to some interesting places philosophically, namely that moral reality, as far as we'll be able to parse it out can never really be divorced from our nature, and the best we can do is approach living as pragmatically as we can while preserving as much individual liberty as is reasonable given our past, present, and future considerations that take into account our physical realities in toto.

This is of course a realization that will never happen which results in absurdity, pessimism, nihilism, and crap posting on the Internet.

On a side note, Yahoo Bot is a total mystery to me. I literally have no idea how someone who can hold such insanely retarded opinions such as his and somehow do what he's done personally and professionally. It's amazing. Like. I feel like I'm watching a retarded leopard fall out of a tree right onto an antelope. He's a leopard. He clearly climbed the tree somehow. He fell onto an antelope. He's eating the now unconscious antelope. He's been nominated as Leopard of the Year now. Somehow he mated and made more leopards. But that leopard is retarded. You can see it. When it roars it oftens makes literal herpy derpy sounds. Its leopard eyes are all wonky. But there he is. Leopard of the “F” ing Year.

This world is really something...

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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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