Enjoy the trolls, folks

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_Lemmie
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Re: Enjoy the trolls, folks

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Lemmie wrote:
Res Ipsa wrote: If [Grindael] felt MG had been harassing him outside the rules during the three years, he could have reported MG. But he didn’t.

That is absolutely incorrect.

Res Ipsa wrote:Not until the cf at the end.

Also incorrect.
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Re: Enjoy the trolls, folks

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Lemmie wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
Well let's just hope no one calls me a c**t up here in Terrestrial like they did down in the off topic equivalent Paradise forum were no one gave a hoot.

FUBAR. You got that right!

:lol: let's see...is "purveyor of sodomy and pornography" in the ballpark??


Only if the majority can also be described as gang rapers.

by the way, I misspelled a word in my post. Kiss of death for a first born.

"were" should be "where". Okay I feel a bit better now. ;-)
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Re: Enjoy the trolls, folks

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Jersey Girl wrote:Well let's just hope no one calls me a c**t up here in Terrestrial like they did down in the off topic equivalent Paradise forum were no one gave a hoot.

It's not that no one gave a hoot; that word is in the word-censor, so those of us who have it activated never saw what you were called.

sock puppet wrote:Dr Shades, it might be better that one troll be banned, than an entire board perish in silence.

Food for thought.

Oh boy, believe you me, I've most definitely thought about it, all right. Surely we can spill a little constitutional milk in order to save the American pie, right?

But at the end of the day, my conscience restrains me due to three factors:

  1. Bowing down to threats of withdrawal will create a group of "elites" who get to dictate which posters can stay and which must go.
  2. If A expresses disagreement with B, then all B needs to do is call A a "troll" and A will have to be expelled, according to precedent.
  3. I made up my mind long ago that I would never play Pontius Pilate.
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Re: Enjoy the trolls, folks

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OK Lemmie, after how many months of MG’s harassment did Grindael report MG?
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Re: Enjoy the trolls, folks

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Dr. Shades wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:Well let's just hope no one calls me a c**t up here in Terrestrial like they did down in the off topic equivalent Paradise forum were no one gave a hoot.

It's not that no one gave a hoot; that word is in the word-censor, so those of us who have it activated never saw what you were called.

sock puppet wrote:Dr Shades, it might be better that one troll be banned, than an entire board perish in silence.

Food for thought.

Oh boy, believe you me, I've most definitely thought about it, all right. Surely we can spill a little constitutional milk in order to save the American pie, right?

But at the end of the day, my conscience restrains me due to three factors:

  1. Bowing down to threats of withdrawal will create a group of "elites" who get to dictate which posters can stay and which must go.
  2. If A expresses disagreement with B, then all B needs to do is call A a "troll" and A will have to be expelled, according to precedent.
  3. I made up my mind long ago that I would never play Pontius Pilate.


Yep. Exactly.
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Dr. Shades wrote:If A expresses disagreement with B, then all B needs to do is call A a "troll" and A will have to be expelled, according to precedent.


There has been a lot of that going on around here for quite a while.

In a free society...and may I say on a board that claims to be a place where freedom of opinion reigns (You can say that here!)...it would be unfortunate if this ceased to be the case.

As I've said before, at that point all there is is an echo chamber of like voices.

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Re: Enjoy the trolls, folks

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sock puppet wrote:Dr Shades, it might be better that one troll be banned, than an entire board perish in silence.

Food for thought.


We don't need another MAD board. I do not want Shades to become just another Calm/Nemesis.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:Well let's just hope no one calls me a c**t up here in Terrestrial like they did down in the off topic equivalent Paradise forum were no one gave a hoot.

It's not that no one gave a hoot; that word is in the word-censor, so those of us who have it activated never saw what you were called.


Everyone who doesn't have the word censor did see it. What's your point? That you can't see a word is censored when it's censored?

Excuse me. :rolleyes:
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Res Ipsa wrote:OK Lemmie, after how many months of MG’s harassment did Grindael report MG?

Res ipsa, you made the assertion that "during the three years, [grindael] could have reported MG. But he didn’t." It's yours to prove not mine to disprove.
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Re: Enjoy the trolls, folks

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Dr. Shades wrote:Oh boy, believe you me, I've most definitely thought about it, all right. Surely we can spill a little constitutional milk in order to save the American pie, right?

But at the end of the day, my conscience restrains me due to three factors:

  1. Bowing down to threats of withdrawal will create a group of "elites" who get to dictate which posters can stay and which must go.
  2. If A expresses disagreement with B, then all B needs to do is call A a "troll" and A will have to be expelled, according to precedent.
  3. I made up my mind long ago that I would never play Pontius Pilate.

1. Where did Maksutov, ihaq, or grindael threaten you? In fact, ALL THREE subsequently made posts in support of (not necessarily agreement with) your decision in this matter. All three then made personal decisions that, to the best of my reading, never included a threat to you that made their leaving or not leaving contingent upon getting something from you.

2. When have you EVER decided someone was a troll on the basis of one person telling you so? For that matter, when have you ever made a decision here on the basis of what ONE person said? I have never seen you take any action without looking at all sides. Why would the board suddenly become a place where not only would you make a decision based on one side, but one where you only listened to one side?

3. No one is asking you to. You run this board with a huge amount of integrity and equanimity, and no one wants that to disappear. EVER. You're stuck with us, my friend. :cool:
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