Facsimile No. 3 printing plate reveals jackal head Anubis

[_Fence Sitter]

Klaus Baer said in his Dialogue 1968 article that there no fibres in the glue. I agree the glue on the paper and the papyri placed over it.

I would think that brushing sticky glue on the fragile papyrus would be very problematic and would be likely to tear it. If I were gluing the papyrus to the paper, there is no way I would apply the glue to the papyrus. That'd be the dumb way to do it.

Plus, as aussieguy55 points out, there don't seem to be any signs that something was glued there and torn away.

I'm not saying that it is impossible but it just doesn't look likely to me.

However, the snout being removed on the woodcut looks very likely.

So first off I am not saying the glue was not first placed on the backing paper but I think the jury is still out.

First off, the 1968 Baer article was based on his examination of sepia copies of the papyri which were only available in the 1968 Feb Improvement Era magazine. So I am not sure how well he could actually tell about fibers from those photos. I own my own hard copy of the 1968 Era and those photos are not that great. Remember these are the photos Gee used to try and dishonestly claim there wasn't two colors of ink in any of the extant pieces. There isn't color anything in sepia photos, and since no one was allowed at that time, to actually examine the real papyri, no one could challenge him.

Secondly the 1st and second sections of the Hor scroll (maybe more) were originally glued as a single piece to a single sheet of paper then cut in two. See here for the second section. You will notice that in both sections, around the perimeter of each the jagged edges lie perfectly flat on the surface of the backing paper. This was a piece of papyri that was in roll form for over 2000 years and they are able to glue it flat perfectly so all edges stay down. How would one go about that?. Well if it were me, I would take the papyri and lay between two pieces of glass or something really flat. After it flattened out I would lay it face down on a flat surface, brush glue on the back of the papyri itself, then lay the backing paper on it, weighted down with another flat surface. Since the papyri is already resting on a flat firm surface, it would not be a problem to place glue on the back of it.

That method would explain why all the jagged areas lie flat on the backing paper while at the same time explain the lack of glue, for the most part out beyond the actual jagged edges of the papryi, on the backing paper.

I really don't think that the head of Anubis was there for Joseph, but I do think it strange that what appears to be glue runs from Anubis to Hor's waist.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

8 or 9? 8.9? Bah!

You've found a place on the printing plate where a chiseled-away snout is visibly present. And it has visible fangs. And the appropriate ear has always been present. And the snout was, from an egyptological perspective, always to be expected.

That's a 10. Or, if we're being cautious, a 9.99.

Bravo, Shulem, on the brilliant discovery!

Don

Where are fangs? What did I miss?

You literally just needed to click on Page 1.

Literally.

- Doc

[_Jersey Girl]

Where are fangs? What did I miss?

You literally just needed to click on Page 1.

Literally.

- Doc

I literally did that before posing the question. Where are fangs? Which image?

[_Jersey Girl]

You mean the vertical marks on the mouth????

[_Jersey Girl]

If it's the vertical marks on the mouth, I didn't see those as fangs. I saw those as chisel marks. I haven't seen one ancient image of Anubis on a funeral scroll where he's put the gizzards into the canopic jars, where he had fangs projecting from his mouth.

I don't actually see any ancient rendering of Anubis with fangs exposed.

If someone has an example, I'm interested.

[_Shulem]

Beware, Mr. Tatorhead has a couple of questions.

It is my understanding that these funeral scrolls are quite common, yes / no?
If yes, are all funeral scrolls fairly similar? Or have a similar pattern or template?
If yes, are there other scrolls that these reconstructions/redrawings of Joe's be compared to for simularities or differences?

Thanx in advance.

Yes and yes and here:

http://www.edholroyd.information/Smith/Facsimile3.htm

Note the jackal head which I suspect was on the original papyrus until Joe Blow Smith mutilated it.

[_moksha]

Yes and yes and here:

http://www.edholroyd.information/Smith/Facsimile3.htm

Note the jackal head which I suspect was on the original papyrus until Joe Blow Smith mutilated it.

Tator was asking if there are any other funerary scrolls in existence that show a similar format and display the same characters including Anubis, and if so, was this a standardized format?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

This Google search comes up with:

https://www.google.com/search?client=ta ... 1&dpr=1.33

- Doc

[_Shulem]

Yes and yes and here:

http://www.edholroyd.information/Smith/Facsimile3.htm

Note the jackal head which I suspect was on the original papyrus until Joe Blow Smith mutilated it.

Tator was asking if there are any other funerary scrolls in existence that show a similar format and display the same characters including Anubis, and if so, was this a standardized format?

It's a typical funerary scene depicting core Egyptian gods (Greek/Roman era) wherein a dead Egyptian is being ushered into heaven's throne to be with the gods forever. It's part of the Book of the Dead. It's an essential element to the Egyptian religion and the hope of a blessed afterlife. The Facsimile No. 3 scene is unique in which there is not another exactly like it in existence. Artistic license and expression was not forbidden and artists took liberty in working within the standard conventions of Egyptian art and canon.

I'm sure there are a great many papyri in existence today in museums that are not featured on the Internet.

[_Tator]

Thank you Paul, Mok and DocCam for blessing me with your help. I am home sick with a cold and I am trying study this with a very thick head. I love the subject and really look forward to seeing Paul's new work on this.