Discussion of the ''DCP / plagiarism'' thread

[Guest]

Is he going to correct the record on Brother Arrington's 'contribution' to MST?

- Doc

I don’t know, Doc. Why don’t you ask him?

Hey Mr. Peterson!

We all know you can't resist the siren song of a thread with your name in it. Why don't you set the record straight on this thread?

- Doc

[_Kishkumen]

Dupe Cut Pasterson is pretty darn funny.

[_Tator]

Dupe Cut Pasterson is pretty darn funny.

I've been using Dupe or Ditto and Copy or Cut Pasterson in various combinations since Oct 29. I am sure there are other options. To me it just sums the plagiarizer perfectly. I hope he takes EWCs advice in the post above but Dupe Cut Pasterson I think has too big of an ego to come clean.

Pasterson reminds of the old adage, "You can lead a man to knowledge but you can't make him think".

[_Jesse Pinkman]

To get the thread back on track, I wanted to come back to this very important observation by DrW.

Gerald Bradford made additional observations at the time, in effect stating that the approach taken in the past was simply not professional and did not reflect well on the University.

I doubt he would brook any possibility that the approach he oversees now would be allowed to be tainted, repeatedly, with documented plagiarism.

I completely agree. I think it's fair to say that after Professor Lemmie's very detailed compilation of Peterson's plagarism, the entire Maxwell Institute and senior members of BYU's Administration are breathing a huge collective sigh of relief that Gerald Bradford purged Peterson.

Thank you Professor Lemmie for this monumental effort. I know in real life, that there are MI faculty and BYU professors who are closely following this OP.

If BYU professors and MI faculty are following this thread as you claim, then it looks like BYU is already aware of the incident and either has not initiated an investigation as of yet, or doesn’t feel that Dan’s offense is worth taking to that level. It could also mean that they are actually going to give Dan an opportunity to correct his errors that have been documented here before passing any kind of official judgment.

It also appears that from Tom’s observations, Dan is attempting to attribute the authors he failed to credit initially. I realize that according to Lemmie’s “rainbow post” (as Ceeboo noted..and I have to say, I liked the color coordination. It made things easier to read. ), she felt that some of Dan’s corrections were inadequate. I suppose that we will have to see what BYU has to say, since, as Everybody Wang Chung has pointed out, they are apparently following this thread.

[_Jersey Girl]

If BYU professors and MI faculty are following this thread as you claim, then it looks like BYU is already aware of the incident and either has not initiated an investigation as of yet, or doesn’t feel that Dan’s offense is worth taking to that level.

How would you expect to know what BYU has or hasn't done regarding the topic?

I suppose that we will have to see what BYU has to say, since, as Everybody Wang Chung has pointed out, they are apparently following this thread.

What makes you think we will "see" anything regarding what BYU has to say about plagiarism and Daniel Peterson?

[_moksha]

What makes you think we will "see" anything regarding what BYU has to say about plagiarism and Daniel Peterson?

Excellent point. Fasting and Praying are done behind closed doors and the process of sticking one's head in the sand renders the entire scene invisible, more or less.

[_Jesse Pinkman]

If BYU professors and MI faculty are following this thread as you claim, then it looks like BYU is already aware of the incident and either has not initiated an investigation as of yet, or doesn’t feel that Dan’s offense is worth taking to that level.

How would you expect to know what BYU has or hasn't done regarding the topic?

I have been in recent contact with Dan. He would have told me if he was under active investigation by BYU for plagiarism. If he is currently being investigated, it is being done without Dan’s knowledge which I would find a tad unusual.

I suppose that we will have to see what BYU has to say, since, as Everybody Wang Chung has pointed out, they are apparently following this thread.

What makes you think we will "see" anything regarding what BYU has to say about plagiarism and Daniel Peterson?

If Dan is let go from BYU, or put on some kind of suspension / probation, I’m sure that either Dan will say something about it, or, since Everybody Wang Chung appears to have some in real life connections with BYU faculty who are specifically following this thread, I have no doubt that Everybody Wang Chung will report to us any investigation and/or outcome that he hears about.

[_Jersey Girl]

I have been in recent contact with Dan. He would have told me if he was under active investigation by BYU for plagiarism. If he is currently being investigated, it is being done without Dan’s knowledge which I would find a tad unusual.

So what you are saying is that you have been in recent contact with Daniel via private email communication. That (because you are close personal friends) he would tell you privately if he was under active investigation by his university employer, and if he were, that you would blast that private and confidential professional business matter on this public forum.

If Dan is let go from BYU, or put on some kind of suspension / probation, I’m sure that either Dan will say something about it, or, since Everybody Wang Chung appears to have some in real life connections with BYU faculty who are specifically following this thread, I have no doubt that Everybody Wang Chung will report to us any investigation and/or outcome that he hears about.

Yes, I'm confident that were he to be placed on suspension/probation by his university employer, that Daniel Peterson would announce that publicly to the world. Or Everybody Wang Chung would get wind of it and share, or that Daniel himself would share the news with you privately via email, so that...

you can blast his personal and confidential information on a public forum (acting as self appointed go between, between DCP and the universe at large) because you're close personal friends and well, that's what close personal friends do for friends.

[_Jesse Pinkman]

I have been in recent contact with Dan. He would have told me if he was under active investigation by BYU for plagiarism. If he is currently being investigated, it is being done without Dan’s knowledge which I would find a tad unusual.

So what you are saying is that you have been in recent contact with Daniel via private email communication. That (because you are close personal friends) he would tell you privately if he was under active investigation by his university employer, and if he were, that you would blast that private and confidential professional business matter on this public forum.

If Dan is let go from BYU, or put on some kind of suspension / probation, I’m sure that either Dan will say something about it, or, since Everybody Wang Chung appears to have some in real life connections with BYU faculty who are specifically following this thread, I have no doubt that Everybody Wang Chung will report to us any investigation and/or outcome that he hears about.

Yes, I'm confident that were he to be placed on suspension/probation by his university employer, that Daniel Peterson would announce that publicly to the world. Or Everybody Wang Chung would get wind of it and share, or that Daniel himself would share the news with you privately via email, so that...

you can blast his personal and confidential information on a public forum (acting as self appointed go between, between DCP and the universe at large) because you're close personal friends and well, that's what close personal friends do for friends.

You are really twisting my words around and I don’t appreciate it. You are just tagging the worst possible scenario on this. You must really think I’m an awful person. Not sure what I did to make you feel that way.

No. I wouldn’t blast anything. For the record, I haven’t said anything involving my conversations with Dan that broke any type of confidence at all. Nor would I. Obviously, if Dan didn’t want anything said, I wouldn’t say anything. Good grief, Jersey Girl.

All I was trying to say was that things get around. And since so many people are chomping at the bit to see that Dan gets his comeuppance, all I was saying is, I guess we will see what the results ends up being.

There has been tireless digging that has been done on posting Dan’s accounts of plagiarism. I’m sure that the same amount of fervor will go into finding out what, if anything, BYU decides to do.

But let me make this very clear. I would never post anything here that Dan had told me in confidence and I’m very offended that you would think I would do that.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Liz,

Mr. Peterson using you as as an informant and spokeswoman is manipulative. You should reconsider your friendship with him:

http://www.thriveafterabuse.com/narciss ... echniques/

- Doc