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Re: DCP's ongoing problem with plagiarism

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Res Ipsa wrote:I do, with the caveat that someone assist Shades by posting for him links to the posts that should go in the new thread. I don’t think we should saddle him with sifting and sorting the posts.


Lemmie is the only logical choice for someone to prepare a list of links to submit to Shades.
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Re: DCP's ongoing problem with plagiarism

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Res Ipsa wrote:I do, with the caveat that someone assist Shades by posting for him links to the posts that should go in the new thread. I don’t think we should saddle him with sifting and sorting the posts.

Lemmie is the only logical choice for someone to prepare a list of links to submit to Shades.

She should certainly be given right of first refusal, but lots of folks here are perfectly capable. It’s not that difficult. It’s just a pain in the ass.
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Re: DCP's ongoing problem with plagiarism

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Res Ipsa wrote:She should certainly be given right of first refusal, but lots of folks here are perfectly capable. It’s not that difficult. It’s just a pain in the ass.

You're right, it's not that difficult. But no more a pain in the ass than having watched it dragged all over hell's half acre as it has been.
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Re: DCP's ongoing problem with plagiarism

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I nominate moksha! Penguins have a lot of free time on their flippers!
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Re: DCP's ongoing problem with plagiarism

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I could start a new thread entitled Documentation from 'DCP's ongoing problem with plagiarism,' and request in the OP that posting there be reserved only for documentation. I could leave a link to the other thread, noting further discussion can be continued there.

I think copying over rather than moving over the documentation would accomplish the purpose without disrupting legitimate conversations here, of course with various posters retaining the right on the new thread to edit out stuff related to any other conversation if they want to.

If I recall correctly documentation has come from Tom, Everybody Wang Chung, myself, and Doc, and possibly a few others. I also don't mind copying over documentation of related plagiarism cases and posts of BYU and other's academic policies as that gives context.

How about I start the thread, and then I'll start by sending some links to Shades to be copied over.
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I think splitting may be mechanically easier than copying over from Shades’s end. If his interface is similar to ones I’ve used, he can call up the thread with radio buttons to be checked. Those he checks are moved to the new thread.

ETA: If you send Shades the links, he can do what’s mechanically the easiest. Choosing the links is the real chore.
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Re: DCP's ongoing problem with plagiarism

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Res Ipsa wrote:I think splitting may be mechanically easier than copying over from Shades’s end. If his interface is similar to ones I’ve used, he can call up the thread with radio buttons to be checked. Those he checks are moved to the new thread.

I'd rather not, that would leave many legitimate discussions here in shambles.
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Re: DCP's ongoing problem with plagiarism

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Gotcha.
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RI yes, that's how it works on this system.

Lemmie--great idea! Do it.
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Re: DCP's ongoing problem with plagiarism

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Lemmie wrote:I could start a new thread entitled Documentation from 'DCP's ongoing problem with plagiarism,' and request in the OP that posting there be reserved only for documentation. I could leave a link to the other thread, noting further discussion can be continued there.

I think copying over rather than moving over the documentation would accomplish the purpose without disrupting legitimate conversations here, of course with various posters retaining the right on the new thread to edit out stuff related to any other conversation if they want to.

If I recall correctly documentation has come from Tom, Everybody Wang Chung, myself, and Doc, and possibly a few others. I also don't mind copying over documentation of related plagiarism cases and posts of BYU and other's academic policies as that gives context.

How about I start the thread, and then I'll start by sending some links to Shades to be copied over.


I think that's a perfect solution for any lurkers interested in the subject at hand.

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