Jersey Girl wrote: That's very likely the case. We only know what she wanted us to know. One thing that bother's me is that when he called her again, she let him know that she wasn't on board with his behavior. I believe he apologized. That seems like a fair exchange between two adults.
What she could have done is ask for help determining whether or not that was sexual misconduct, abuse, harrassment, or assault. I don't think she did that.
As it stands, she made herself look as bad as he looked. We are imperfect human beings.
You want a person who believes they were sexually violated to ask the person they see as the violater to help them determine if they were in the wrong?
Are you insane? What planet are you on?
Nowhere in my words did I say I wanted her to ask the person they see as violater to help them make a determination.
What are you doing? Making crap up as you go along so you have something to bat at?
No, EA. She could have asked a friend or two, a family member or a therapist.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Jersey Girl wrote: If he already wrote what he thinks there's no need for you to spell it out.
I think implications sometimes need to be spelled out.
So I noticed.
So do you, but just not right now for some reason.
Personally, I blame the barometric pressure for that. With any luck I'll be trapped in my house and on here all day tomorrow, and drive you people entirely crazy along with me.
That said, what possible harm could it do you to engage in an actual give and take conversation with another person without you trying to play oneupmanship as the final goal?
You know, talk. And when I say talk, I mean type.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Themis wrote: From Doc's postings he appears to have a lot of bias clouding his thinking as well as a major dislike for some posters like EAllusion.
What kind of stupid ass thing is that to say?
He doesn't have bias. He has opinions just like the rest of the world.
Who cares if he likes or dislikes EAllusion? What does that matter in terms of his opinions and viewpoints?
We all have bias, but I am suggesting his is especially biased, on this subject, based on posts here and many other threads I have seen him on. Disliking a poster a lot can have a impact on what opinions they form.
EAllusion wrote:You didn't answer the question. What consequences should she suffer?
but anyways EAllusion. We men have to be very careful and respect women, and not push them to have sex with us if they are unsure or reluctant. As for the woman accusing Azizi she shouldn't suffer any consequence, I changed my mind. Let's all be happy and freedom for all.
As long as her account is accurate then there is no legal consequences. Going public was a way to attack him, and I think it was unfair. She should have stuck to just communicating what she thought to just him instead. It didn't work out quite like she probably thought it would, and could suffer some consequences for it. Much more if he decides to identify her to the public.
Jersey wrote: No, EA. She could have asked a friend or two, a family member or a therapist.
Who says she didn't? The only person we know she didn't ask is Aziz.
We don't even know that she didn't ask Aziz.
This is what I stated:
What she could have done is ask for help determining whether or not that was sexual misconduct, abuse, harrassment, or assault. I don't think she did that.
The reason that I said I don't think she did that, is because she didn't mention it in her account and as I stated to DT, we only know what she wants us to know.
And from all of that, you decided I was implying that she should have asked Aziz.
So much for your accuracy in conveying implication.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Themis wrote:We all have bias, but I am suggesting his is especially biased, on this subject, based on posts here and many other threads I have seen him on. Disliking a poster a lot can have a impact on what opinions they form.
Well you see, you say that because you're biased in favor of EA.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Themis wrote:We all have bias, but I am suggesting his is especially biased, on this subject, based on posts here and many other threads I have seen him on. Disliking a poster a lot can have a impact on what opinions they form.
Well you see, you say that because you're biased in favor of EAllusion.
Themis wrote:We all have bias, but I am suggesting his is especially biased, on this subject, based on posts here and many other threads I have seen him on. Disliking a poster a lot can have a impact on what opinions they form.
Well, much like MG being cool with God calling pedophiles I find EA being cool with rape fantasies utterly bizarre and a reflection of his character.
I'm sorry, but fantasizing about raping others or being raped is bizarre at best and utterly depraved and psychotic at worst. What's next? Fantasizing about sodomizing children is peachy? Humping dogs is easy peasy as long as it stays in your dome?
Holy crap sometimes this board surprises me.
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
