A mother was arrested for breastfeeding her baby

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A mother was arrested for breastfeeding her baby

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In the Illusion of God's Presence page 151 the author reports that Denise Perrigo was arrested for sexual abuse and Incest. Her crime? Breastfeeding her baby. The woman was arrested for almost one year, but in the end the charges were eventually dropped thank goodness. It makes me wonder how many abuse reports are s***?

I honestly hope false sex abuse reports are not common. In the future I couldn't possibly go to a bar (or somewhere else) to meet new women, modern times are simply very scary.
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What’s causing you to be anxious us finding extreme cases and then treating them as if the are normal case. Take the period of time over which all the interactions that gave rise to the recent allegations took place — a decade? Two decades? More? Now, think about all of the sexual interactions that took place between men and women in that period of time. What percentage of those interactions do you think led to any allegation of sexual assault, let alone a false accusation? I suspect your risk of having your life ruined by a false allegation of sexual assault is lots less than having your life ruined driving to or from a date and getting into an accident. Do you avoid driving because someone might run a red light and T-bone your car? (That’s happened to me twice by the way.)

Yes, people get things wrong. Sometimes spectacularly wrong. Where did get the idea that they don’t? Courts sometime convict the innocent and let the guilty go. CPS workers pursue innocent people and completely miss abusive situations. Managers fire good workers and promote somebody who turns out to be stealing from the company. It’s not fair that you might be hurt by someone else getting something wrong, but it’s also not fair that you might get something wrong and hurt someone else.

If you are going to avoid meeting women because if the very small risk that one of them might false claim you abused them, you’re depriving yourself of what can be an amazing part of life out of an irrational fear. Rather than do that, why not discuss you’re anxiety with a therapist?
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Res Ipsa wrote:What’s causing you to be anxious us finding extreme cases and then treating them as if the are normal case.


Just for a quick reply because I don't have time. Hopefully extreme cases are very rare, but the case shows that we humans don't think rationally when it comes to sex. Don't take my word, I read psychologists saying people stop thinking when they hear the word "sex".

And the war on sex book points out that extreme cases are not very uncommon.
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Res Ipsa wrote: I suspect your risk of having your life ruined by a false allegation of sexual assault is lots less than having your life ruined driving to or from a date and getting into an accident. Do you avoid driving because someone might run a red light and T-bone your car? (That’s happened to me twice by the way.)


Thanks Res Ipsa for your thoughts. I don't like our driving system thought, I wish we as humanity did more to create self driving cars.

Res Ipsa wrote:If you are going to avoid meeting women because if the very small risk that one of them might false claim you abused them, you’re depriving yourself of what can be an amazing part of life out of an irrational fear. Rather than do that, why not discuss you’re anxiety with a therapist?


Yes your are right, but at this moment I can't go and just start meeting new women (personal reason). My future lifestyle is very uncertain, I think I need a therapist to help with me with my disbelief. It's very hard for me to think there is probably no god and no after life. It is very hard for me to think I wasted my young teenage years for the church. I regret being a fanatic Mormon.

As for sex paranoia, it may not be as uncommon as we assume. Many people do go to unfairly to jail, and I read that a majority of sex offenders are non-violent offenders for something stupid like urinating in public.
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DT, I had a very rough time after leaving the LDS church. I wish I had known to work with a therapist. Loss of faith can be traumatic, and adjusting to “gentile” lifestyle can be difficult. I generally recommend therapy for anyone having a tough time with the transition.
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DoubtingThomas wrote: and I read that a majority of sex offenders are non-violent offenders for something stupid like urinating in public.


Where did you read that a majority of sex offenders did not commit sexual offenses but instead stupid ones like urinating in public?
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café crema wrote:Where did you read that a majority of sex offenders did not commit sexual offenses but instead stupid ones like urinating in public?


You have to do some critical thinking café, don't go by your gut reactions and assumptions. True sex offenders never get to see the light of the day again, meaning they get life in prison. Someone going to jail for some months cannot be a real sex offender, courts won't release sexual predators for a very long time.

"At least 13 states require sex offender registration for public urination"
http://www.businessinsider.com/surprisi ... er-2013-10

"Very few registered sex offenders — a mere 1 percent in some states — fall into the category of violent sexual predators. Many of those on the sex offender registries were found guilty of crimes that did not involve any contact with another person. Others were convicted of misdemeanors (rather than felonies) of a sexual nature or of crimes involving consensual sexual activity that elicited no complaint from the alleged victims or from bystanders. Among the offenses subject to registration in a number of states in 2007, according to Human Rights Watch, were paying for sex, urinating in public" - War on Sex by Duke University Press
https://www.dukeupress.edu/Assets/PubMa ... -5_601.pdf

". If there are thousands of offenders on a registry, it is harder to keep track of the most dangerous ones. Budgets are tight. Georgia's sheriffs complain that they have been given no extra money or manpower to help them keep the huge and swelling sex-offenders' registry up to date or to police its confusing mass of rules. Terry Norris of the Georgia Sheriffs' Association cites a man who was convicted of statutory rape two decades ago for having consensual sex with his high-school sweetheart, to whom he is now married. “It doesn't make it right, but it doesn't make him a threat to anybody,” says Mr Norris. “We spend the same amount of time on that guy as on someone who's done something heinous.”"
http://www.economist.com/node/14164614

But anyways café, I don't believe female teachers should be arrested for having sex with 16-17 year old boys. I think in many cases it is the students that manipulate the teachers, not the other way around.
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"Teenagers who take nude photographs of themselves could get charged with child pornography and be put on sex registries, according to a 2013 report from Human Rights Watch. Kids who send naked photos that are viewed in another state could be charged with a federal crime, personal injury lawyer Linda Jane Chalat has written. A 15-year-old girl in Pennsylvania was charged in 2004 with spreading child porn after taking nude photos of herself and putting them online, according to Human Rights Watch. She was still on the sex offender registry as of 2012."
http://www.businessinsider.com/surprisi ... er-2013-10
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Res Ipsa wrote:DoubtingThomas, I had a very rough time after leaving the LDS church. I wish I had known to work with a therapist. Loss of faith can be traumatic, and adjusting to “gentile” lifestyle can be difficult. I generally recommend therapy for anyone having a tough time with the transition.


The LDS church was everything to me, it is very hard. I think I do have some trauma, but I need a professional to confirm that. Thanks for your suggestion.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:True sex offenders never get to see the light of the day again, meaning they get life in prison.


The average time for rape is between 8 and 9 years in the US not life in prison.

But anyways café, I know you hate me because I don't believe female teachers should be arrested for having sex with 16-17 year old boys. I think in many cases it is the students that manipulate the teachers, not the other way around.[/quote]


Sorry but I don't "hate" you for this, and you should stop with this kind of talk it makes you sound like you're 15, I admit I have no respect for your opinion in this area, but "you hate me" just stop.
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