MeDotOrg wrote:This is June. Mueller was hired in May. So he can't investigate Trump because of a issue with his membership at a Trump Country Club. Presumably Mueller has been has been waiting for the off-chance that Donald Trump would be elected President and Mueller would be appointed a Special Prosecutor to investigate him. .
Mueller also interviewed for FBI position, why do you conveniently omit facts in favor of presupposition? Either way, you don't get to accuse Trump of being an unreasonable person and then claim his actions as being "reasonable" for an excuse to condemn.
I'm sorry. What did he say to Comey again? Why did he fire Comey?
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
EAllusion wrote:Subs : Hillary and Bill Clinton are fugitives from the law leaving a trail of coverup murders in their wake, including Vince Foster's.
Also Subs: Trump could have good reasons for firing people investigating his and his admins potential malfeasance. I don't see any evidence that anything untoward is going on.
I think it's worth noting Trump didn't relent from firing Mueller because it was illegal; Trump only relented to keep McGahn from quitting as White House Counsel. McGahn has been with Trump since the campaign, so if he lost McGahn because he quits then you better believe McGahn is going to be sucked into the investigation.
I don't see how Trump can fire Mueller without forcing Congress to impeach him. I just don't.
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I don't see how Trump can fire Mueller without forcing Congress to impeach him. I just don't.
I don't know, Doc, I don't see much more than lip service from the current GOP controlled Congress that suggest they would seriously commit to this. I honestly don't even expect a Nixon-like scenario where the AG and Deputy AG would resign over this sort of thing, I'm not seeing much honor among thieves right now.
"If you consider what are called the virtues in mankind, you will find their growth is assisted by education and cultivation." -Xenophon of Athens
I think Devin Nunes continuing to head the House Intelligence Committee and actively thwart the investigation despite his supposed recusal is a clear tell where Republicans leadership will stand on impeaching Trump over firing Mueller unless something significantly changes with information out in public. And what's already out in public is completely damning.
Jersey Girl wrote:He can't? If he outright took a gun out of his desk drawer and shot someone to death (no self defense involved) could he not be charged and prosecuted for murder?
The District Attorney in Manhattan might charge Trump, but that charge could disappear with a large enough donation to Mr. Vance's reelection fund. Otherwise, the shooting would boost Trump's popularity with his own supporters.
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I think it's worth noting Trump didn't relent from firing Mueller because it was illegal; Trump only relented to keep McGahn from quitting as White House Counsel. McGahn has been with Trump since the campaign, so if he lost McGahn because he quits then you better believe McGahn is going to be sucked into the investigation.
I'm actually starting to suspect that McGahn is the actual leak in all this. All these stories coming out seem to paint him as like the last heroic member defending The Hot Gates against Trump and his cronies desire to do evil and I think it is a fair assumption to think anyone running with Trump for this long probably isn't squeaky clean.
"If you consider what are called the virtues in mankind, you will find their growth is assisted by education and cultivation." -Xenophon of Athens
MeDotOrg wrote:This also emphasizes the point that Trump does not understand how the Justice Department works. His instincts are those of a CEO of his own company. Make it go away, fire the Department head if you have to, but make it go away. If Mueller is fired, someone comes in to take his place. As long as the FBI is working properly, it is the Federal Police Department, not the White House Police Department
Think you hit the nail on it's head right there.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
