Water Dog wrote:People may not even be aware of how important a certain physical attribute is to them. For example, I know a guy who's wife is flat chested. So much so that she even warned him when they were engaged. Her family pressured her to give him a heads up to make sure it was ok. And of course what is this guy going to say? Unless he's a total ass, he's going to reassure her and say it's not a problem. Because that's the good guy response. And after marriage, he's not the type to say stuff or give her reasons to be insecure. Although it's a constant source of insecurity for her. Talking with him about all this though, he feels like he's missed out. He feels weird around women with breasts, even his own daughters. Like in a perverted can't help but stare but feels really guilty about it and doesn't want to kind of way. And I don't know what to say. No idea what the answer to that is. I think it's kind of a silly thing in context, but for him it's intriguing because he doesn't know. It's like trying coffee or beer for the first time. It's soooo tempting until you actually try it, then it's like, "that's what all the fuss was about?" If this guy had been with some other women before, experienced different shapes and sizes, I don't think he'd be so wound up and weird now. And how does it end? He's a time bomb waiting to get in trouble.
I'm so sorry that your wife has a flat chest, Water Dog. It's too bad you didn't get to experience "different shapes and sizes."
Shades, the extreme case opening up the more variational cases is not unlike the dynamics of the Stonewall Riots:
It was those who had "nothing else to lose" who were putting their necks out more, like Martha P. Johnson and Sylvia Rivera, two often-homeless trans women who could be arrested just for wearing dresses, who were subjected to police inspecting their genitals on suspicion of cross-dressing. Understanding this enables me to empathize more with the so-called sexually-provocative marchers in Pride parades, those who wear nothing or next to nothing. To me, they remind us of the people living the extreme cases who out of necessity made life better for others later on.
Sexual orientations are another story of human adaptation, improved adaptability.
Dr. Shades wrote:No, I don't get that heterosexuality is a gift to the world, any more than red hair, brown eyes, five fingers on each hand, or olive skin. It simply IS.
It's more than just IS. Love and sex is what perpetuates human life on the planet and without it there would be no such thing as the gift of life wherein babies are born. Life is a gift in the world and also is love which warms the world with a vibration of goodness, pleasure, and joy.
Sexuality is a gift. It's more than just the color of your hair. Sexuality is naturally given freely to every person and everyone has the natural ability to utilize this gift for their own joy and for the joy of others.
If I was a clairvoyant, I'd say you have a problem with your love life, Shades.
Shulem wrote:If I was a clairvoyant, I'd say you have a problem with your love life, Shades.
Doesn't everyone?
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Meadowchik wrote:Shades has the math wrong and I addressed it before you posted this. Pedophilia violates consent.
How is the math wrong. Let's see. 1/100 is a higher probability than 1/1000. If confused let me know. As for this consent business, one, that depends on where the line defining consent is drawn (DoubtingThomas will show up at any moment to engage that debate), and two, who cares and what does this have to do with the price of tea in china? Either pedophilia is a thing or it isn't. Either people who have this thing are in control of it or they aren't. Are these natural feelings? Were they born with them? Are they powerless to live happy lives as a different "orientation?" Why can't we ever have, like, actual adult conversations around here? You act like my point is absurd, it's not. If it's "unfair" and a horrific crime against humanity for this gay man to live inauthentically, and therefore is justified in divorcing the fat, insecure TBM woman that got manipulated into this rainbow experiment, why can't that same argument be made for the pedophile marching in the NAMBLA parade? "humosexuality is a beautiful gift to the world!" As you toss colored jelly beans out into the wind. WTF are you talking about? Here, I've got another beautiful world gift for you. My wife is in love with Joseph Smith. And I'm not. But good news, that means I can kick her and my kids to the curb while I find a properly matched partner. JosephSmithLove and JosephSmithHate are equally beautiful gifts for the whole world to enjoy! Increasing individual opportunities for human connection and happiness.
Shulem wrote:It's more than just IS. Love and sex is what perpetuates human life on the planet and without it there would be no such thing as the gift of life wherein babies are born. Life is a gift in the world and also is love which warms the world with a vibration of goodness, pleasure, and joy.
Well, uh, then doesn't that make homosexuality more of a curse on natural selection than a gift?
