Dreamers denied

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EAllusion wrote:Blasocysts aren't people.

There is no need to call Subgenius a blastocyst. His cells have long since differentiated.
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I'm cool with abortion. It correlates to reduced crime. Unwanted children grow up to rub Consevatives the wrong way. Best nip the issue in the blastula.

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Jersey Girl wrote:What the hell is it that some folks really want? The right to dictate the lives of others?


What is aborting a child then? Isn't terminating the live of another, dictating the life of another?
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Markk wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:What the hell is it that some folks really want? The right to dictate the lives of others?


What is aborting a child then? Isn't terminating the live of another, dictating the life of another?


We do that all the time. I don't see why flushing a blastula is a problem compared to terminating a fully cognizant human being, or worse, condemning one to a lifetime of suffering.

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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Markk wrote:What is aborting a child then? Isn't terminating the live of another, dictating the life of another?


We do that all the time. I don't see why flushing a blastula is a problem compared to terminating a fully cognizant human being, or worse, condemning one to a lifetime of suffering.

- Doc

I believe you believe that. But the Jersey Girl point?
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Markk wrote:I believe you believe that. But the Jersey Girl point?


I'm not sure I understand your point about her statement in relation to abortion. Flushing some cells versus condemning a cognizant human being to misery because they belong to a family who existed on the other side of an arbitrary invisible line doesn't make any sense to me.

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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Markk wrote:I believe you believe that. But the Jersey Girl point?


I'm not sure I understand your point about her statement in relation to abortion. Flushing some cells versus condemning a cognizant human being to misery because they belong to a family who existed on the other side of an arbitrary invisible line doesn't make any sense to me.

- Doc

cognizant?...as if you can prove when you allegedly became "cognizant"...or that such an event occurred at all.

If we are going to use arbitrary and convenient measures for the value of human life why not just keep it simple....for example - people who disagree with me are really not people and therefore can be maimed, killed, or enslaved at will.
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Ceeboo wrote:Kevin didn't take my advice? I'm shocked! :lol:

Au contraire, KG likely is convinced that he did take your advice, and that he took your advice better than anyone in the Greater Metropolitan Atlanta area...and if you can not see that then he will rightly consider you stupid and racist.
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subgenius wrote:cognizant?...as if you can prove when you allegedly became "cognizant"...or that such an event occurred at all.

If we are going to use arbitrary and convenient measures for the value of human life why not just keep it simple....for example - people who disagree with me are really not people and therefore can be maimed, killed, or enslaved at will.


I dunno. I'm fairly certain blastulas aren't cognizant. I think that's what we're talking about, right?

Anyway, I'm not sure what Markk's point is in relation to Jersey Girl's statement.

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: Dreamers denied

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Markk wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:What the hell is it that some folks really want? The right to dictate the lives of others?

What is aborting a child then? Isn't terminating the live of another, dictating the life of another?

How about you copy my entire post and engage it as the whole interconnected series of thoughts that it was?

Do that and I'll be happy to engage your comments.
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