Gripe of the day

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Re: Gripe of the day

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Doctor Steuss wrote:It’s a geotechnical report, that includes the things you mentioned (like compaction, particle size distribution, groundwater, etc.), as well as laboratory analysis of things like water soluble sulfate, sodium sulfate, salts, and chloride.

I was definitely mistaken though as far as it being similar to what you were talking about (my apologies). After looking up the Phase II Environmental Assessment requirements, it’s definitely much more involved than what is required in a GeoTech report, or things like the fill sections on VA-29-1852, or the toxic hazard section of HUD-92541.

Basically, I’ve learned yet another reason why I’m glad I’m not doing this stuff in CA.

My condolences on the government headaches you have to work through.


One mans trash is another mans gold. The truck and transfer guys are making out, in that now instead of taking the dirt to a project close by, they now have to take it to a landfill that, in most cases, is much farther away.

I did a project in Irvine 3 or 4 years ago and the civil engineer screwed up and stated that the grading would balance out, when in fact he missed the required base section so we ended up having a few thousand yards of soils to export as a C/O.

The closest land fill that would take it was like 60 or more miles away round trip...the cost to the county was over 100 grand in the end.

We tried for a month to find anyone to take it, but do to not having a phase 2, and that it was really expansive, no one would touch it, not even local land fills. 10 or 15 years ago we could have either sold it or had someone take it for free.

BMP's are also a rip off scam in CA. I don't know if other states have them but it is just a scam here, especially if your project is over x amount of acres. But again, the gravel bag companies, straw wattle, visqueen, and silt screen outfits are making a killing. we have to spend all that money for maybe 3 days of rain. Many times we have to have protection up for six months or more and it never rains. And if you do not maintain it you can get big fines.

https://www.casqa.org/resources/bmp-handbooks
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Re: Gripe of the day

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Markk wrote:One mans trash is another mans gold. The truck and transfer guys are making out, in that now instead of taking the dirt to a project close by, they now have to take it to a landfill that, in most cases, is much farther away.

I did a project in Irvine 3 or 4 years ago and the civil engineer screwed up and stated that the grading would balance out, when in fact he missed the required base section so we ended up having a few thousand yards of soils to export as a C/O.

The closest land fill that would take it was like 60 or more miles away round trip...the cost to the county was over 100 grand in the end.

We tried for a month to find anyone to take it, but do to not having a phase 2, and that it was really expansive, no one would touch it, not even local land fills. 10 or 15 years ago we could have either sold it or had someone take it for free.

BMP's are also a rip off scam in CA. I don't know if other states have them but it is just a scam here, especially if your project is over x amount of acres. But again, the gravel bag companies, straw wattle, visqueen, and silt screen outfits are making a killing. we have to spend all that money for maybe 3 days of rain. Many times we have to have protection up for six months or more and it never rains. And if you do not maintain it you can get big fines.

https://www.casqa.org/resources/bmp-handbooks

That's crazy.

Here, the big four builders have a mutually beneficial understanding of sorts, and basically just swap dirt when needed. It's all considered Native/TypeII as long as it comes from a project in the valley.

Thank you for the information/conversation. Learned a few new things.
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