Markk wrote:In other words, instead of loading up and moving troops to the desert or other locations, they can do so for a parade and it would count as a deployment exercise.
Great idea. Because everyone understands that marching in a parade provides the same readiness training as military deployment exercises.
Markk wrote:I have a co worker who was on track to be a career military man (Marines) until after 8 years of service had his foot crushed in a forklift accident in Iraq. He was a non com and had responsibilities of helicopter maintenance, deployment, and readiness for a squadron(or what ever one calls a dozen or so helicopters).
I was telling him about this conversation and asked him if he would appreciate a parade, he stated yes. I took it further asked him how much does he think it would cost to mobilize a group of helicopters, and while he did not know the actual costs, he made a great point is stating that the marines would have to show full readiness and training once a year...and three times a year in mini exercises.
He told 4 times a year he and his team would have go into full mobilization as an training SOP.
He also told me it was basically up to the commander as to what the three mini exercises would be and that airshows and parades could count as a readiness exercise for a parade. He used exact terminology that I can't remember for all this.
In other words, instead of loading up and moving troops to the desert or other locations, they can do so for a parade and it would count as a deployment exercise.
That's a good idea.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
It's not a good idea because you'd blow through your fiscal year's budget with a mobilization to Washington DC for a parade. That means you'd have no money for training or readiness.
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:It's not a good idea because you'd blow through your fiscal year's budget with a mobilization to Washington DC for a parade. That means you'd have no money for training or readiness.
- Doc
Except that it is training and readiness Doc, that's the point. Getting ready and deploying for a US urban setting is actually a great idea and should be a required deployment drill in my opinion. Not only for an invasion type of scenario, but for a disaster or revolt to large for the national guard to handle. IYO, should our military train for readiness and deployment in a large US urban setting? Am I wrong...why?
Don't take life so seriously in that " sooner or later we are just old men in funny clothes" "Tom 'T-Bone' Wolk"
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:It's not a good idea because you'd blow through your fiscal year's budget with a mobilization to Washington DC for a parade. That means you'd have no money for training or readiness.
- Doc
Except that it is training and readiness Doc, that's the point. Getting ready and deploying for a US urban setting is actually a great idea and should be a required deployment drill in my opinion. Not only for an invasion type of scenario, but for a disaster or revolt to large for the national guard to handle. IYO, should our military train for readiness and deployment in a large US urban setting? Am I wrong...why?
You're right, Markk. You know far more about military training and readiness than I do. Let's have a parade!
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Markk wrote:Except that it is training and readiness Doc, that's the point. Getting ready and deploying for a US urban setting is actually a great idea and should be a required deployment drill in my opinion. Not only for an invasion type of scenario, but for a disaster or revolt to large for the national guard to handle. IYO, should our military train for readiness and deployment in a large US urban setting? Am I wrong...why?
You're right, Markk. You know far more about military training and readiness than I do. Let's have a parade!
- Doc
Because urban warfare is exactly like a presidential military parade.
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:It's not a good idea because you'd blow through your fiscal year's budget with a mobilization to Washington DC for a parade. That means you'd have no money for training or readiness.
- Doc
Oh what do you know anyway.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
I think there's serious distance between the way different parties envision this. It seems that some are doing some rather heavy lifting for Trump by reimagining the desired parade as a way of honoring vets of our recent decade+ long wars. Perhaps I'm wrong, but that's how I read Markk's vet friend's response to the question put to him as presented by Markk. OTOH, many people opposed to the idea of a large military parade in D.C. see Trump's statement as calling for a dick-waving event. And frankly that's how I read Trump's statements as he has presented them.
Those are two very different things. Both cost a lot. One of them is palatable.
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
The 2002 Winter Games in SLC included a fairly major domestic military security deployment as a response to the very recent 9/11 attacks. Best as I could find, the cost for security by the fed was in the hundreds of millions. Not an exact analog for mobilizing for a parade but it's more recent than the '91 victory parade.
