You don't need Jesus

[_Symmachus]

Some people find great value in their beliefs about god and Jesus (moral, aesthetic, or whatever). Some people find no value. There is no universal correlation between either belief and non-belief and whatever one means by "happiness."

And as for love: it is an emotion like any other. It is highly overrated in our culture and very dangerous in extreme quantities. It certainly is not all you need unless all you want is to be dazed and confused.

[_Maksutov]

Some people find great value in their beliefs about god and Jesus (moral, aesthetic, or whatever). Some people find no value. There is no universal correlation between either belief and non-belief and whatever one means by "happiness."

And as for love: it is an emotion like any other. It is highly overrated in our culture and very dangerous in extreme quantities. It certainly is not all you need unless all you want is to be dazed and confused.

Hey, I love people who love NASCAR. Go figure.

[_Symmachus]

Hey, I love people who love NASCAR. Go figure.

Some people just really like turning left. After years of driving where designated left-turn lanes are rare and where you can't turn right on a red light, I can almost sympathize.

[_Shulem]

Shulem, Are you a vegetarian strictly avoiding both Mcdonalds and backyard barbecues? You realize that the animal sacrifice business was a matter of shared meals. Now even if you believe vegetarian is a superior way of life surely you do not see the folks at Mcdonalds with the same white hot hostility because of the daily murder of cows and chickens going on behind the facade?

I would be fairly confident that the primary heater for your hostility is a justifiable reaction to the way homosexuals have been treated for a long time now.Being angry about that makes sense to me.

I don't have a problem with eating meat. I don't have a problem with killing animals for a source of food. I do have a problem with slaying animals for religious cult practices and for the purpose of forgiving sins. I have a problem with ritually pouring animal blood on human bodies and religious objects as a matter of veneration and worship. The law of Moses and cult rituals associated with it were a horrific and barbaric practice. Sick and degenerate! All that is beneath you and I.

I find the blood doctrine of Christ to be cult doctrine and sick. Blood and suffering from Jesus does nothing for you and I. There is no forgiveness through Jesus' blood. All that is a lie. The Christians have been selling their lies for 2,000 years and people still eat it up. It's so sad.

Then there is Nightlion, peddling his lies and sick cult doctrines as if they are facts and all the while laughs in the face of science and reality. Those are the markings of a very sick mind, mind you.

[_Shulem]

I think zombie Jesus likes people to eat his flesh and drink his blood, whether transubstantiation or symbolically.

Dear Jesus,

I don't want your blood and I refuse to drink it whether symbolically or through transubstantiation. I am not interested in living with you or having anything to do with your Father. Frankly, Jesus, I think you're insane and there is no chance that I will eat your flesh either. I don't care that you died on a cross. I want nothing to do with you. I forgive myself for my own sins whatever they may be and I love whoever I will. You have no power over me and are no more real in my mind than Santa Clause.

Have a nice day,

Shulem

[_Shulem]

Some people find great value in their beliefs about god and Jesus (moral, aesthetic, or whatever). Some people find no value. There is no universal correlation between either belief and non-belief and whatever one means by "happiness."

And as for love: it is an emotion like any other. It is highly overrated in our culture and very dangerous in extreme quantities. It certainly is not all you need unless all you want is to be dazed and confused.

Christians think they have a monopoly on truth. So also do Mormons. Both can't be right. Nonetheless, both make supernatural claims (based on faith only) and insist that their way is the only way that leads to happiness and salvation.

Atheists are able to live happy and productive lives apart from Christ and without Mormonism. As far as I'm concerned, happiness and Mormonism are mutually exclusive. It's like oil and water -- they don't mix. Christianity is nothing but snake oil.

[_JLHPROF]

I'm not a hypocrite. Will you clarify, please?

No, you are definitely not a hypocrite.
You are one of the best missionaries for Christianity I've ever seen. And you are not the only one on here.

____ GOD and HIS STUPID USELESS ____ SON and THE HOLY TOASTER!!!! What a waist of a life to seek after the approval of such EVIL ____!
Forget God, live happy

One look at the things posted by some here is the best testimony of the results of rejecting Christ I've ever seen. Anyone that thinks these kind of mindsets are positive are deluded.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

One look at the things posted by some here is the best testimony of the results of rejecting Christ I've ever seen. Anyone that thinks these kind of mindsets are positive are deluded.

Well, thank god you have such amazing examples of Christlike behavior within the ranks of your chosen faith!

- Doc

[_JLHPROF]

Well, thank god you have such amazing examples of Christlike behavior within the ranks of your chosen faith!

There are good and bad in all groups, the Christian, the Mormon, and the Atheist alike.
But when the people telling me I don't need Christ are those that take the lowest, crudest, most vulgar approach, they aren't exactly persuasive. As I said, they are more likely to convince others that the thing they oppose so strongly is a better path.
The kind, loving, charitable, friendly atheist would be much more effective I would think.

[_Fence Sitter]

The kind, loving, charitable, friendly atheist would be much more effective I would think.

Better to sleep with a sober cannibal than a drunk Christian I always say.