Half of Parkland in Same Chicago Weekend but.....

[_Bach]

Where was the outrage?

http://abc7chicago.com/8-killed-30-woun ... o/3112848/

It’s just not politically meaningful for the main stream liberal media to report on the bigger tragedies of the progressive culture.

No AR-15 used in Chicago, toughest gun control laws in nation yet —— somehow bad guys get guns.

Liberals are too lazy to create meaningful jobs so they’d rather take away rights and tax those making all the investment in our country and actually creating opportunity.

[_Gadianton]

So Bach, if liberals are too lazy to create meaningful jobs, why don't conservatives swoop in and create jobs, make more money for themselves while they are at it? I'm pretty sure if conservatives could solve society's problems through job creation that liberals will be outnumbered and begin to disappear.

[_cinepro]

Where was the outrage?

http://abc7chicago.com/8-killed-30-woun ... o/3112848/

It’s just not politically meaningful for the main stream liberal media to report on the bigger tragedies of the progressive culture.

No AR-15 used in Chicago, toughest gun control laws in nation yet —— somehow bad guys get guns.

Liberals are too lazy to create meaningful jobs so they’d rather take away rights and tax those making all the investment in our country and actually creating opportunity.

For better or worse, people (or at least the media) seem to care less if the violence is spread out (i.e. multiple unrelated shootings) and it can be written off as gang or "inner city" violence. If those shootings happened in Beverly Hills, or were all committed by one person, then we'd probably hear more about it.

Also, those types of events tend to be covered by local news. There are just too many shootings for national media to cover all of them. It takes an unusual event to get much national media attention.

As for Chicago's gun control laws, those laws are less effective the smaller the area they cover. A city (or county, or state) passing gun control might be an honest effort, but it's too easy for people to bring in guns from outside the area (especially since their border isn't controlled at all; they can only try and control possession once they discover it). To the degree those laws can have an effect, they would be more effective on a bigger area with some degree of controlled borders.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Ok. So for those of you saying this isn't ldsfaqs let's just break this out a bit.

1. The nonsensical headline.

Half of Parkland in Same Chicago Weekend but.....

There's nothing about his headline that makes sense whatsoever. You'll note no cohesive thought or point is conveyed in addition to using an extended ellipsis. This is classic ldsfaqs.

Where was the outrage?

http://abc7chicago.com/8-killed-30-woun ... o/3112848/

2. The link with no context expecting us to click on it and sort through it in order to make sense of whatever point he thus far hasn't made. Classic ldsfaqs.

It’s just not politically meaningful for the main stream liberal media to report on the bigger tragedies of the progressive culture.

3. The sentence above really throws you off because it's more or less coherent. One might believe that Ajax18 is just using another sock puppet at this point.

No AR-15 used in Chicago, toughest gun control laws in nation yet —— somehow bad guys get guns.

Liberals are too lazy to create meaningful jobs so they’d rather take away rights and tax those making all the investment in our country and actually creating opportunity.

4. But then we get back into all the regular Breitbart-like talking points that ldsfaqs is known to use along with insults and unsubstantiated assertions riddled with grammatical errors. Again. Classic ldsfaqs posting style is on display.

There's something rotten in Denmark, folks. My theory is Bach is ldsfaqs medicated, and ldsfaqs is ldsfaqs unmedicated. There are just too many similarities in his syntax to dismiss the 'Bach-Faqs' hypothesis.

- Doc

[_EAllusion]

Where was the outrage?

http://abc7chicago.com/8-killed-30-woun ... o/3112848/

It’s just not politically meaningful for the main stream liberal media to report on the bigger tragedies of the progressive culture.

No AR-15 used in Chicago, toughest gun control laws in nation yet —— somehow bad guys get guns.

Liberals are too lazy to create meaningful jobs so they’d rather take away rights and tax those making all the investment in our country and actually creating opportunity.

For better or worse, people (or at least the media) seem to care less if the violence is spread out (i.e. multiple unrelated shootings) and it can be written off as gang or "inner city" violence. If those shootings happened in Beverly Hills, or were all committed by one person, then we'd probably hear more about it.

Also, those types of events tend to be covered by local news. There are just too many shootings for national media to cover all of them. It takes an unusual event to get much national media attention.

As for Chicago's gun control laws, those laws are less effective the smaller the area they cover. A city (or county, or state) passing gun control might be an honest effort, but it's too easy for people to bring in guns from outside the area (especially since their border isn't controlled at all; they can only try and control possession once they discover it). To the degree those laws can have an effect, they would be more effective on a bigger area with some degree of controlled borders.

This report was heavily covered last year:

https://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-r ... 16983.html

It's about 60% out of state guns recovered from crimes in Chicago and 40% in-state guns. That's drastic already, but the in-state gun sources also lean on sources outside of the city.

The city isn't able to effectively regulate gun flow with its restrictions.

[_Gadianton]

For better or worse, people (or at least the media) seem to care less if the violence is spread out (i.e. multiple unrelated shootings) and it can be written off as gang or "inner city" violence. If those shootings happened in Beverly Hills, or were all committed by one person, then we'd probably hear more about it.

Surprisingly, I think you're missing a more crucial distinction. In terms of pure results maybe we'd only cover the greatest number of violent deaths, if that's traffic accidents then we'd just cover that and never mention guns.

Suppose deep within one of our enemy countries a group of political extremists hold an American civilian, one with no ties to their country that they'd kidnapped on American soil and transported to their own country, and now torture and behead the captive on camera. They perform this ritual every 4 months on the dot and we're three years into the campaign. Should we, as a country, do anything about it?

Consider that at 3 people a year, that would only be 30 people in 10 years, and by that time the political landscape will have changed enough that they'll probably have stopped by then. The chances of this happening to any given person is astronomically low, and the same number of people die of the flu every hour. The cost for doing anything about it at all is very high, and for the same money, we could feed a lot of people in soup kitchens. Any kind of military intervention would come at the cost of many more lives. What is the appropriate level of concern for such a situation?

While the media isn't shy about exploiting a trend, we as humans tend to believe factors other than raw consequences matter. That's why even though while a victim is just as dead either way, a manslaughter charge is far less than first degree murder. It seems to matter to us that a person died because another person was carelessly texting while driving vs. a person died because another person got a gun meant for killing people at walmart and walked up and randomly shot the victim in a vulnerable and innocent setting.

At one end of the spectrum is accidental evil and at the other end is sheer terrorism. One factor that makes death more shocking is when it falls closer on the spectrum to terrorism.

If those shootings happened in Beverly Hills, or were all committed by one person, then we'd probably hear more about it

If a quarter of those shootings happened within an inner city school we would also have heard more about it.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Gad,

Once again you knock it out of the park. If Cruz had opened fire in a school in Chicago instead of Parkland with the same results I'm fairly certain it would've been all over the news.

- Doc

[_Bach]

So Bach, if liberals are too lazy to create meaningful jobs, why don't conservatives swoop in and create jobs, make more money for themselves while they are at it? I'm pretty sure if conservatives could solve society's problems through job creation that liberals will be outnumbered and begin to disappear.

What small business smart entrepreneurial would invest capital where liberals are running the tax and spend govt? But then full time posters here probably know better than I w all their experience.

[_Gadianton]

What small business smart entrepreneurial would invest capital where liberals are running the tax and spend govt?

The ones who know that making a lot of money is still worth it, even if it could have been a lot more money in a better tax environment.

[_Some Schmo]

What small business smart entrepreneurial would invest capital where liberals are running the tax and spend govt?

The ones who know that making a lot of money is still worth it, even if it could have been a lot more money in a better tax environment.

That's crazy talk. Everyone knows that no small businesses ever move into liberal areas. These vast "business deserts" where liberals live are awful. Liberals have to walk for miles to get to conservative areas just so they can buy a loaf of bread, unless they want to shop at Walmart.

It's so sad. If you have aspirations to start a business in a place you've lived your whole life, but you happen to find out it's a liberal area... oh, the horror. So you end up driving a truck and earning hemorrhoids, because that's clearly the smart thing to do - better than following your American business dream... because liberals.

Damn liberals.