Markk wrote:When was the last time you were in So Ca. and where did you go...Disneyland, Knot's Berry Farm, or Sea World? I am sure those with a HS diploma who work at these places, make much more becasue of illegal immigration. E.A. It has changed dramatically in even the last ten years.
by the way, how many illegal immigrants do you have in your neighborhood? I would so much love to give some of you folks here a tour of what our country is assimilating into, you have absolutely no idea. But I'll tell you who does not live in these neighborhoods...the politicians that pander for their votes, and people like you. You preach liberalism and live conservative in your little bubble giving a few dollars each year and then write if off.
Anyways, send me the link that supports your assertion.
How would going on a tour with you inform one of the economics of immigration and wage growth? Wouldn't the best information come from economists who study these things for a living?
Markk wrote:When was the last time you were in So Ca. and where did you go...Disneyland, Knot's Berry Farm, or Sea World? I am sure those with a HS diploma who work at these places, make much more becasue of illegal immigration. E.A. It has changed dramatically in even the last ten years.
by the way, how many illegal immigrants do you have in your neighborhood? I would so much love to give some of you folks here a tour of what our country is assimilating into, you have absolutely no idea. But I'll tell you who does not live in these neighborhoods...the politicians that pander for their votes, and people like you. You preach liberalism and live conservative in your little bubble giving a few dollars each year and then write if off.
Anyways, send me the link that supports your assertion.
How would going on a tour with you inform one of the economics of immigration and wage growth? Wouldn't the best information come from economists who study these things for a living?
How would a tour of a disaster zone help a Governor understand the scope, magnitude, and ground reality of said disaster zone? Why would a General need to visit his troops if his advisers tell him everything there is to know? Why would an archaeologist need to go for a site visit in order to understand all the factors that go along with a dig? Why would a relief worker need to visit an impoverished country if all the mechanisms to deliver food and medical supplies are in place? Why would a biographer need to visit Atlanta when he's writing about MLK?
C'mon.
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:How would a tour of a disaster zone help a Governor understand the scope, magnitude, and ground reality of said disaster zone? Why would a General need to visit his troops if his advisers tell him everything there is to know? Why would an archaeologist need to go for a site visit in order to understand all the factors that go along with a dig? Why would a relief worker need to visit an impoverished country if all the mechanisms to deliver food and medical supplies are in place? Why would a biographer need to visit Atlanta when he's writing about Martin Luther King?
C'mon.
- Doc
Are we going to pretend going on this tour is really going to tell you that much about how immigration really affects economics and wages? Are you going to keep ignoring the question about whether experts who study these things for a living would not have the best information? Are we going to pretend they also never leave their ivory towers?
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:How would a tour of a disaster zone help a Governor understand the scope, magnitude, and ground reality of said disaster zone? Why would a General need to visit his troops if his advisers tell him everything there is to know? Why would an archaeologist need to go for a site visit in order to understand all the factors that go along with a dig? Why would a relief worker need to visit an impoverished country if all the mechanisms to deliver food and medical supplies are in place? Why would a biographer need to visit Atlanta when he's writing about Martin Luther King?
C'mon.
- Doc
Are we going to pretend going on this tour is really going to tell you that much about how immigration really affects economics and wages? Are you going to keep ignoring the question about whether experts who study these things for a living would not have the best information? Are we going to pretend they also never leave their ivory towers?
Are we going to stop pretending these experts have "the best information?" That was an oddly Trumpian thing to say.
Anyway. I'm not overly invested in the discussion other than wanting leaders to look at the situation pragmatically, and then adjust their policies so the private and public sector can find a win-win situation for wage-based and lower salaried workers.
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Anyway. I'm not overly invested in the discussion other than wanting leaders to look at the situation pragmatically, and then adjust their policies so the private and public sector can find a win-win situation for wage-based and lower salaried workers.
- Doc
And where would leaders get the most accurate information to look at the situation pragmatically?
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:How would a tour of a disaster zone help a Governor understand the scope, magnitude, and ground reality of said disaster zone? Why would a General need to visit his troops if his advisers tell him everything there is to know? Why would an archaeologist need to go for a site visit in order to understand all the factors that go along with a dig? Why would a relief worker need to visit an impoverished country if all the mechanisms to deliver food and medical supplies are in place? Why would a biographer need to visit Atlanta when he's writing about Martin Luther King?
C'mon.
- Doc
Are we going to pretend going on this tour is really going to tell you that much about how immigration really affects economics and wages? Are you going to keep ignoring the question about whether experts who study these things for a living would not have the best information? Are we going to pretend they also never leave their ivory towers?
. Then seeing that you agree with ea, and did not address some of the examples that I gave...share with me the data you read that would make you agree with ea?
Don't take life so seriously in that " sooner or later we are just old men in funny clothes" "Tom 'T-Bone' Wolk"
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Anyway. I'm not overly invested in the discussion other than wanting leaders to look at the situation pragmatically, and then adjust their policies so the private and public sector can find a win-win situation for wage-based and lower salaried workers.
- Doc
And where would leaders get the most accurate information to look at the situation pragmatically?
With their “F” ing eyeballs? This isn't a mystery.
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Anyway. I'm not overly invested in the discussion other than wanting leaders to look at the situation pragmatically, and then adjust their policies so the private and public sector can find a win-win situation for wage-based and lower salaried workers.
- Doc
And where would leaders get the most accurate information to look at the situation pragmatically?
You can make numbers read anyway you like in a large economy, yet you can objectively take a tour of LA and alike and see it is turning into a poop hole. Especially if you lived here for 60 years and have watched it crumble. If they are so good for the economy, why are our schools, streets, neighborhoods, laws...falling apart. Can you see that in a report?
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Don't take life so seriously in that " sooner or later we are just old men in funny clothes" "Tom 'T-Bone' Wolk"
You can make numbers read anyway you like in a large economy
There are lies, damned lies, and there are statistics.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
Total onboard with agreeing to disagree and moving on. considering our clown in chief is starting a global trade war to distract the media from focusing on the disarray in the white house, we probably have more pressing concerns we agree on anyway.
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
