You don't need Jesus

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_Shulem
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Re: You don't need Jesus

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huckelberry wrote:Shulem, I thought Moksha's observation was reasonable. You may not wish to go to church because of it but do not see the connection to your silly response. Nobody is hanging around on Sunday morning expecting magic food.

It is in a similar manner that the meaning of need you are using is not a way people need Jesus. People go through their daily struggles in life on their own feet. There are people who find inspiration in Jesus and that inspiration is of real worth to them. That does not mean they are unable to stand on their own feet.

I do not share your bizarre blood phobia. but it is not something I can discuss , being clueless as to the sense of your feelings about it.


Moksha was being nice and playing peace maker. But let me tell you what's not so nice and very unpeaceful: Jesus second coming and burning me with his flames -- third degree burns all over my body while I whither in torment and him taking his sword and hacking me to pieces before finally slaying me while all the Christians gather around and say, "Amen".

How's that for nice? How's that for Jesus' hypocritical love? Well let me tell you something. I'll run my sword through Jesus' guts before he can kill me. I'll punch him in the face and choke him! If the SOB tries to burn me with fire and flame I'll jump on him and kill him myself.

I've said this before. Jesus of the Bible plans to murder. Christians threaten everyone who refuses to bow the knee and so-called sinners have been threatened with sword, fire, and suffering at the hands of BASTARD Jesus.

Do you get my point? Call that bastard Jesus off! There will be no flames. There will be no swords. Jesus is NOT going to murder me, period.
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Re: You don't need Jesus

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I don't know why anyone would take offense with Shulem's posts about Jesus or God. I mean, he's not lying.

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Re: You don't need Jesus

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JLHPROF wrote:
Shulem wrote:You don't need Jesus to be a good person and live a good life. You can do that all on your own!

As usual your posts seem to show the opposite.


Lots of people live good lives and do good and do not have any beliefs in Jesus. There are countless non-Christians who are wonderful and good people. You Christians love to judge and condemn others. You disgust me, JLHPROF. Keep your imaginary Jesus. Bow before him. Kiss his feet and be his servant for all I care. You are a waste of space and are wasting my air.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I don't know why anyones would take offense with Shulem's posts about Jesus or God. I mean, he's not lying.

- Doc


Right. I'm telling it like it is from a certain perspective. I've not lied or misrepresented anything I've said about Jehovah and his Bible.

I personally feel threatened by Christians and so-called Bible prophecy and beliefs. All this talk about Jesus coming back to burn me (murder me) is very offensive to me. I demand an apology from Christians and demand that they stop preaching horrible things about their god coming back and burning up unbelievers.
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Shulem wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I don't know why anyones would take offense with Shulem's posts about Jesus or God. I mean, he's not lying.

- Doc


Right. I'm telling it like it is from a certain perspective. I've not lied or misrepresented anything I've said about Jehovah and his Bible.

I personally feel threatened by Christians and so-called Bible prophecy and beliefs. All this talk about Jesus coming back to burn me (murder me) is very offensive to me. I demand an apology from Christians and demand that they stop preaching horrible things about their god coming back and burning up unbelievers.


Keep up the good work Shulem! Jesus, whether he was a real person surrounded by myth or complete myth has been used to justify organized murder, slavery, and as a tool for christian retribution. It is complete nonsense that his death and suffering was necessary for some being in the clouds to forgive us and sometimes blunt honesty is the only way to convince people of their nonsensical beliefs.
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_Jersey Girl
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I don't know why anyone would take offense with Shulem's posts about Jesus or God. I mean, he's not lying.

- Doc

Because Mr. Tolerance is a raving hypocrite? I dunno.

My best guess.
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Jersey Girl wrote:Because Mr. Tolerance is a raving hypocrite? I dunno.

My best guess.

I'm not a hypocrite. I don't think so. I don't see that. You've not explained how that is so.

I take a firm stand against threats to burn and torture me. I'm standing up against the Bible. I have zero tolerance for death threats. If it's spade then that means it's black. It's that simple.
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Shulem wrote:I don't see that.

Yeah, no kidding. You disgust me.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Shulem wrote:I don't see that.


Yeah, no kidding. You disgust me.


Would you be willing to flesh that out a little? I can guess at what you might view as hypocritical, but I’m more interested in your thoughts than my guesses. And is it the hypocrisy that elicits the disgust? Or is there more to it?
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Res Ipsa wrote:Would you be willing to flesh that out a little? I can guess at what you might view as hypocritical, but I’m more interested in your thoughts than my guesses. And is it the hypocrisy that elicits the disgust? Or is there more to it?


I agree. I think Jersey Girl should explain herself. Frankly, I would be shocked to learn that I'm a hypocrite and would seriously have to reevaluate fundamental principles of how I view myself as a person.

Me a hypocrite? I just don't see that. I can't even imagine it!
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