LDS Newsroom wrote:and would result in action by the Church to formally discipline any member who was guilty of such behavior, especially someone in a position of trust
Well then, get ready to discipline this man because his taped confessions practically prophesy that this is exactly what would happen if the church found him out.
10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0, excommunicate!
Come on dude...You're smarter than this. If you think that the church is going to take the word of a woman over that of a priesthood holder you're deluding yourself.
"...The official doctrine of the LDS Church is a Global Flood" - BCSpace
"...What many people call sin is not sin." - Joseph Smith
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away" - Phillip K. Dick
“The meaning of life is that it ends" - Franz Kafka
Craig Paxton wrote:Come on dude...You're smarter than this. If you think that the church is going to take the word of a woman over that of a priesthood holder you're deluding yourself.
The church is not going to have any choice. The tape speaks for itself and when the public hears it the church will have to comply.
Craig Paxton wrote:Come on dude...You're smarter than this. If you think that the church is going to take the word of a woman over that of a priesthood holder you're deluding yourself.
The church is not going to have any choice. The tape speaks for itself and when the public hears it the church will have to comply.
The church is already spinning this story in this news release so that they come off as a mere innocent third party having done nothing worng. Nothing will come from this...to think other wise is just wishful thinking.
"...The official doctrine of the LDS Church is a Global Flood" - BCSpace
"...What many people call sin is not sin." - Joseph Smith
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away" - Phillip K. Dick
“The meaning of life is that it ends" - Franz Kafka
Sammy Jankins wrote:She says: “I threatened to kill you in 2010.”
And just moments later he says. “I’m glad to run into you again.”
I think there should be at least a little hesitation here about his comprehension.
That could indicate narcissism, but not necessarily a lack of comprehension.
In other words, there could be an issue about his competence. But it could also be something else. Seems like room for a little hesitation.
Perhaps the glee with some are celebrating here may be a bit premature. It very well could be as bad as it seems, and given what we have, it certainly merits a thorough investigation. But there's not enough yet to draw conclusions.
So, from the news release, they've known about this recording for months. Puts the church's sneaky attempt to pass that bill for two party consent for audio recordings into a whole new context. Moves and counter moves.
But - why did none of them bit his penis off? Grab his testicles and twist and scream for help? Take a pen or pencil and drive it into his throat, eyes or scrotum to stop him?
You don't fight off a rapist? Not even try?
None of them went to the Police?
What is wrong with these women?
As for him, castration and a rope would be too easy on the rapist.
Water Dog wrote:So, from the news release, they've known about this recording for months. Puts the church's sneaky attempt to pass that bill for two party consent for audio recordings into a whole new context. Moves and counter moves.
He acknowledged on tape that the interview was being recorded, so I’d assume he consented. I suspect the attempt to change the consent statute was aimed more at secret recordings of disciplinary councils or speakers.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
Res Ipsa wrote:I’ll be curious to see what, if anything, the Trib does with this.
My guess is that they'll take their time, check sources, dot the i's and t's, etc. Like real journalists.
As it stands, a somewhat ambiguous recording of an interview where one party is anonymous won't be enough in itself for a story.
I hope they are able to track the other women down.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
