MTC President Sexually Assaulted Sister Missionaries

[_Dr Exiled]

I would like to assume that mormonleaks got the recording from her, through channels, and that she is denying having done so for fear of a defamation lawsuit. My guess is that she was frustrated at not acting sooner and feeling that the tape being leaked was her only alternative to get some sort of justice in her eyes. I wonder if she made a settlement demand and then found out that her legal rights had long since expired, then passed the recording through channels to mormonleaks?

It is possible and I certainly hope it isn't the case that it was published against her will. Yours and others theories on her denail are plausible but I think it still puts this story in a weird position. Perhaps with time we will get some more clarity.

As others have noted our best hope at completing the picture is for this to get picked up nationally and have other victims (of which there appear to be plenty) come forward with their stories.

#metoo seemed to work with Weinstein. Anyway, I hope MormonLeaks didn't publish against her will, too.

[Guest]

It is possible and I certainly hope it isn't the case that it was published against her will. Yours and others theories on her denail are plausible but I think it still puts this story in a weird position. Perhaps with time we will get some more clarity.

As others have noted our best hope at completing the picture is for this to get picked up nationally and have other victims (of which there appear to be plenty) come forward with their stories.

This woman's claim that the recording was released without her consent raises another question to me regarding her credibility.

People who make death threats to individuals seldom have qualms about inculpatory recordings being released.

And if not through her or her attorney, how indeed did the recording make its way to MormonLeaks . . . ?

For a person who has allegedly contacted everybody she could think of to bring Bishop's malefactions to light, it would seem strange for her to complain that Bishop's malefactions were brought to light over her objection.

[_Res Ipsa]

According to the DN article, Mormonleaks did not have her permission.

[_Shulem]

And if not through her or her attorney, how indeed did the recording make its way to MormonLeaks . . . ?

I would think there are multiple recordings made and probably stored on the internet through electric means. She probably has shared it with friends and associates and it simply got out because someone made the decision to go public.

[_Res Ipsa]

The recording was sent to someone in the church. It could have been heard by any number of people and sent to Mormon Leaks by someone who felt it should become public. It was also shared with Univesity Police. There are many possible sources.

[_consiglieri]

This woman's claim that the recording was released without her consent raises another question to me regarding her credibility.

People who make death threats to individuals seldom have qualms about inculpatory recordings being released.

And if not through her or her attorney, how indeed did the recording make its way to MormonLeaks . . . ?

For a person who has allegedly contacted everybody she could think of to bring Bishop's malefactions to light, it would seem strange for her to complain that Bishop's malefactions were brought to light over her objection.

I am quoting myself to say that I am wrong about this speculation.

It appears Ryan Knight has released a statement saying they did NOT have this lady's consent to release the recording, and it looks like Ryan Knight has just done a three-part interview with John Dehlin at Mormon Stories to explain himself in this regard.

This whole thing is spinning out with a number of interesting tangents.

Ryan Knight now has to explain why it is that he decided that publicly releasing the recording without the consent of the victim and essentially victimizing her again was the right thing to do.

No wonder it takes a three-part interview to explain it . . .

This could be a bit sticky for Mr. Knight.

[_oliblish]

This woman's claim that the recording was released without her consent raises another question to me regarding her credibility.

People who make death threats to individuals seldom have qualms about inculpatory recordings being released.

And if not through her or her attorney, how indeed did the recording make its way to MormonLeaks . . . ?

For a person who has allegedly contacted everybody she could think of to bring Bishop's malefactions to light, it would seem strange for her to complain that Bishop's malefactions were brought to light over her objection.

I am quoting myself to say that I am wrong about this speculation.

It appears Ryan Knight has released a statement saying they did NOT have this lady's consent to release the recording, and it looks like Ryan Knight has just done a three-part interview with John Dehlin at Mormon Stories to explain himself in this regard.

This whole thing is spinning out with a number of interesting tangents.

Ryan Knight now has to explain why it is that he decided that publicly releasing the recording without the consent of the victim and essentially victimizing her again was the right thing to do.

No wonder it takes a three-part interview to explain it . . .

This could be a bit sticky for Mr. Knight.

The podcast was recorded on Monday before the latest statement from MormonLeaks. It is just general information about the leaked recording. There is nothing about the lack of consent from the alleged victim in the podcast If I recall correctly. The second episode is the full audio of the 2+ hour recording. The third episode is John and Ryan discussing the contents of the leaked recording.

I think we will continue to learn a lot more about this in the near future...

[_consiglieri]

Strange they could spend three podcasts not discussing what to me is the main issue vis-à-vis Ryan Knight and the leak of the recording.

If I were Ryan Knight, I would have a hard time justifying leaking the recording without the consent of the alleged victim.

[_oliblish]

Strange they could spend three podcasts not discussing what to me is the main issue vis-à-vis Ryan Knight and the leak of the recording.

If I were Ryan Knight, I would have a hard time justifying leaking the recording without the consent of the alleged victim.

They did discuss the MormonLeaks policy of what to release vs not release. But they didn't bring up whether or not the victim gave her consent to release the tape. Until the additional memo showed up on the MormonLeaks site I had assumed that the woman that made the recording was involved with the leak. Considering the content it seems that would have been something to take into consideration.

ETA: I just listened to the first podcast again, and John Dehlin actually asked Ryan McKnight about the consent of the victim as part of a multi-part question, but that part of the question was never answered. He just said there was 3rd party verification that Joseph Bishop was actually on the tape.

[_Water Dog]

Trib covering.

former president of the Missionary Training Center for the LDS Church has admitted that he took a young woman into a small room at the Provo campus and asked to see her breasts in 1984, according to a December report released Wednesday by Brigham Young University police.
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when speaking with BYU officers on Dec. 5, Bishop said he had gone into his small preparation room with the woman. “Then while talking to her he asked her to show him her breasts which she did,”

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The day earlier, the woman had told officers that Joseph had attempted to kiss her in the room, and she resisted. She said he ripped her blouse and skirt, pulled down other clothing and raped her, the report said. She said she then pushed him off and left the room, it said.

When officers asked Bishop why his account was different than hers, “he said he either can’t remember it or that [she] was exaggerating her account,” the report said.

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“I have no reason to doubt the victim’s disclosure, and would have likely prosecuted Mr. Bishop, but for the expiration of the statute of limitations,” Sturgill wrote.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/03/22/ ... olice-say/