You don't need Jesus

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Re: You don't need Jesus

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Shulem wrote:
Res Ipsa wrote:It does help, Shulem, thanks. I feel the same way about my heterosexuality.

So, do you think one can love Jersey Girl and hate her faith?

I want Jersey Girl to give up her faith. If her faith (or the faith of any Christian) has anything to do with me going to hell or suffering because I'm an unbeliever, then yes, I hate the faith.

Do you think you can genuinely love Jersey Girl and hate her faith?
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Shulem wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:It says there's more to the religion. You know like, oh, I dunno....a New Testament?

You raised the issue of homosexuality. Show me where "Bloody Jesus" condemns homosexuality.

Second time I'm asking here...

Go ahead and level an ad hom instead of answering that question. It's apparently becoming a pattern with you.

what does that say of HIS religion?

(Moses didn't have a New testament. He ran the cult of Jehovah.)

Really? I didn't know that. Again, the New Testament. "Bloody Jesus". You know, the Christianity guy whose religion you keep raving about?

Show me where he condemns homosexuality.

You raised the issue. Address it.

Or spout.
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Jersey Girl wrote:You raised the issue of homosexuality. Show me where "Bloody Jesus" condemns homosexuality.

Moses & Jehovah condemned homosexuality and murdered innocent gay people.

The cult of Jehovah was murderous and tyrannical, no?

Show me where Jesus condemned Moses murdering of homosexuals! He didn't! He honored Moses as a great prophet in so doing became part of the original problem.
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Res Ipsa wrote:Do you think you can genuinely love Jersey Girl and hate her faith?


Right now I don't even like Jersey Girl let alone love her.
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Shulem wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:You raised the issue of homosexuality. Show me where "Bloody Jesus" condemns homosexuality.


Moses & Jehovah condemned homosexuality and murdered innocent gay people.

The cult of Jehovah was murderous and tyrannical, no?

Show me where Jesus condemned Moses murdering of homosexuals! He didn't! He honored Moses as a great prophet in so doing became part of the original problem.


Oh sure. No problem.

Matthew 5:38-48 King James Version (KJV)

38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.
41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.


You can answer my question now.
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Shulem wrote:
Res Ipsa wrote:Do you think you can genuinely love Jersey Girl and hate her faith?


Right now I don't even like Jersey Girl let alone love her.


So, you need something more than love?
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Jersey Girl wrote:Really? I didn't know that. Again, the New Testament. "Bloody Jesus". You know, the Christianity guy whose religion you keep raving about?

Show me where he condemns homosexuality.

You raised the issue. Address it.

Or spout.

You're evasive.

Moses was a murderer!
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Jersey Girl wrote:Oh sure. No problem.

Matthew 5:38-48 King James Version (KJV)

38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.
41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

You can answer my question now.

I see no condemnation here towards Moses & Jehovah for murdering homosexuals. Nothing at all.

Moses & Jehovah are murderers.
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Shulem wrote:
Res Ipsa wrote:Do you think you can genuinely love Jersey Girl and hate her faith?


Right now I don't even like Jersey Girl let alone love her.


I bet!

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Shulem wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:Oh sure. No problem.

Matthew 5:38-48 King James Version (KJV)

38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.
41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

You can answer my question now.

see no condemnation here towards Moses & Jehovah for murdering homosexuals. Nothing at all.

Moses & Jehovah are murderers.

Those are blanket condemnations. Try READING them.

I can put more up later if you want. I can fill up the thread with them if you like.

Where does "Bloody Jesus" condemn homosexuals?

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