MTC President Sexually Assaulted Sister Missionaries

[_I have a question]

There are pro and cons to it. The pros are that it helps the community at large realize these things do happen and that accusers should not simply be dismissed. It does spread “sunshine.”

The cons are that she didn’t consent to it and her past mistakes are now being examined even if we don’t know her name. And apparently it might hurt her settlement.

I have obtained some background information through generally reliable sources that this woman is dissembling when she says she did not give the recording to MormonLeaks.

It is also not strictly correct when she says she did not consent to its release.

She gave the recording to MormonLeaks with consent to its release, and changed her mind four hours before it was set to go public last Monday.

It may be her desire for retribution on Joseph Bishop by having the recording publicized interfered with the backroom negotiations her attorney was engaged in with the church.

This suggests to me that the Church was actively preparing to settle but not do anything in terms of Bishops membership status. Reinforcing my view that the Church does not take sexual abuse seriously enough to change anything. It would have settled, quietly, had people sign NDA's and carried on as if nothing had happened. The Church facilitates sexual abusers.

[_consiglieri]

This suggests to me that the Church was actively preparing to settle but not do anything in terms of Bishops membership status. Reinforcing my view that the Church does not take sexual abuse seriously enough to change anything. It would have settled, quietly, had people sign NDA's and carried on as if nothing had happened. The Church facilitates sexual abusers.

I agree with you 100% on this.

And I think this is something the church has done on a number of occasions in the past, though I can't point you to any hard and fast data on that.

I think this conclusion is buttressed by the fact the church did not pull Bishop's books from Deseret until after the recording was made public.

If they really felt this was the appropriate reaction, they would have pulled the books back in January when they were originally presented with the recording.

The only thing that changed last Monday was that the recording went public, not that the church knew about the recording.

I think this speaks volumes on the subject that the LDS Church cares more about its image than about its members.

[_oliblish]

Think any more victims will come forward?

Odds are that Bishop isn’t the only mission president that crossed the line with sister missionaries.

There was that mission president that tried to marry all of his sister missionaries... Was that in Australia?

[_Dr. Shades]

So, when Joseph L. Bishop was asked to be President of the Missionary Training Center, can we say he was. . .

. . . Called to Perv?

[_Meadowchik]

So, when Joseph L. Bishop was asked to be President of the Missionary Training Center, can we say he was. . .

. . . Called to Perv?

But without his erection made sure.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Dr. Shades and Meadowchik knocking it out of the park!

- Doc

[_Water Dog]

So, when Joseph L. Bishop was asked to be President of the Missionary Training Center, can we say he was. . .

. . . Called to Perv?

But without his erection made sure.

It is well.

[_Craig Paxton]

Priesthood leaders claim to have the power of discernment. In other words they claim to be able to see into the hearts and minds of those they interview and discern whether the person being interviewed is being honest, truthful and forthright.

So how exactly did Joseph Bishop deceive and lie his way past Gordon Hinckley? Where was Hinckley's claimed super magical powers of discernment then?

[_deacon blues]

When Bishop says he doesn't remember the specific incident the interviewer remembers, I wish she would have asked him, "What's the worst thing you do remember?" There are problems with this this tape that may never be resolved, as does his statement: "it makes me wonder what else I may have forgotten."

[_I have a question]

A former president of the LDS Missionary Training Center has admitted that he took a young woman into a small room at the Provo campus in 1984 and asked to see her breasts, according to a report released Wednesday by Brigham Young University police.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/03/22/ ... olice-say/

And this guy isn’t yet excommunicated because...

He claimed not to remember the assault she alleged, but three days later, he told BYU officers that he recalled going into his small preparation room with her. “Then while talking to her he asked her to show him her breasts,” the report said, “which she did.”

His son might want to rethink his “my dad can’t remember/didn’t happen” defence...

“I have no reason to doubt the victim’s disclosure, and would have likely prosecuted Mr. Bishop,” Sturgill wrote in the report, “but for the expiration of the statute of limitations.”

The Church might wish to rethink its statement of “the police didn’t believe her”