MTC President Sexually Assaulted Sister Missionaries

[_I have a question]

(KUTV) — A former employee tells 2News the LDS Missionary Training Center (MTC) had a room like the one described by a woman accusing a former mission president of sexual assault.

The former employee, who asked not to be identified, says the room did have a bed, TV and VHS Player. Those details were key to the woman’s story, first leaked by MormonLeaks on Monday, but were contested by Joseph L Bishop when he spoke to Brigham Young University Police detectives last December. The former employee doesn’t know the alleged victim, but recognized her description of the unusual room in the basement of the MTC.

The employee said the room was in an otherwise unfinished area in a lower junction part of the building. The area provided access to the building’s water pipes, electrical lines and tunnels connected to other campus structures. It was only accessible after passing through more than one locked door. The employee said the room itself had no windows, but was fully furnished inside. The furnishings included a single bed, similar to those used in the MTC dorms, and a TV and VHS player on a mobile cart.

http://kutv.com/news/local/former-emplo ... bed-and-tv

31 years later, the Church continues to publicly doubt the victim (the woman) whilst secretly trying to shut her up with money, whilst the perpetrator (the Man) remains unchastised by the Church.

I've long been suggesting that the Church probably has a bigger problem with sexual abuses by its clergy than the Catholic Church ever faced. This case is affirming of that suspicion. Not least the way the Church has responded to it over 30 years. It's institutionalised sexual abuse and institutionalised covering up. The solution the Church is pursuing, has always pursued, is hush money + NDA's + victim blaming, all in order to protect and facilitate sexual predators. In all probability, considering the information now before us, this incidence of sexual abuse is merely the smallest tip of the largest sexual abuse iceberg that religion has ever seen.

One can only assume at this point, that this goes all the way to the top of the Circus.

[_Shulem]

One can only assume at this point, that this goes all the way to the top of the Circus.

I have no doubt that there are dirty leaders running the church. It's always been that way. LDS leaders are obsessed with masturbation. That's all they think about. Their mind's are constantly on their genitals and how to touch or not touch them. They are obsessed with masturbation and they are obsessed with the masturbation of everyone else. They will flat out ask you if you masturbate as part of the personal worthiness interview. They want to know if and when and how you handle your genitals.

Mormonism and masturbation are M & M's.

I can just imagine [deleted]. gross.

[_oliblish]

Is the complete police report online somewhere?

I noticed that in this report her initial report to her singles ward bishop in the late 80s was not mentioned.

It does clear up an apparent inconsistency of previous statements. In the tape she says he tried to rape her but failed because of his lack of erection. In a later news report she claimed she was raped. This statement shows that both of the previous facts are not mutually exclusive because she was penetrated briefly.

[_oliblish]

I can just imagine [deleted]. gross.

Gee, thanks for getting that image in my mind.

starts singing: We thank thee oh God for a Prophet, to guide me in these latter days...

[_Dr Exiled]

Is the complete police report online somewhere?

I noticed that in this report her initial report to her singles ward bishop in the late 80s was not mentioned.

It does clear up an apparent inconsistency of previous statements. In the tape she says he tried to rape her but failed because of his lack of erection. In a later news report she claimed she was raped. This statement shows that both of the previous facts are not mutually exclusive because she was penetrated briefly.

The Utah legislature failed this woman with the short statute of limitations. Lengthening it out now, retroactively, would cause some constitutional problems as the constitution prohibits ex-post facto laws. Also, if you recall, Bishop admitted to his small member so it isn't surprising that the woman wasn't sure if penetration (rape) had actually occurred.

[_Dr Exiled]

The Bishop incident reminds me of this song:

https://justsomepunksongs.blogspot.com/2014/06/angry-samoans-posh-boys-cock.html

[_oliblish]

Is the complete police report online somewhere?

I noticed that in this report her initial report to her singles ward bishop in the late 80s was not mentioned.

It does clear up an apparent inconsistency of previous statements. In the tape she says he tried to rape her but failed because of his lack of erection. In a later news report she claimed she was raped. This statement shows that both of the previous facts are not mutually exclusive because she was penetrated briefly.

The Utah legislature failed this woman with the short statute of limitations. Lengthening it out now, retroactively, would cause some constitutional problems as the constitution prohibits ex-post facto laws. Also, if you recall, Bishop admitted to his small member so it isn't surprising that the woman wasn't sure if penetration (rape) had actually occurred.

From what I understand there has been a recent change in the law such that the statute of limitations has not expired for a civil suit. So he is safe from criminal prosecution but I understand that the victim's attorney is pursuing a civil suit against the church.

It looks like they were in settlement talks but they stalled when the leak came out. I guess once the church lost the ability to bury the story they put their checkbook away.

This clears up another inconsistency that I wondered about. In the tape the victim says that her lawyer indicated that the statute of limitations had not passed. This seemed in conflict with what I was hearing from other sources. Turns out they were both true.

[_candygal]

Something has got to give here this time. . . the church can't pull any PR props to help this time. . . If he gets away with this. . . change a quote or reference that I remember in the miracle of forgiveness. . . If nothing happens. . . and I just don't mean negotiations. . . members should believe: Better that umpteen women get assaulted than one man be exed and sent to hell.

[_consiglieri]

The Utah legislature failed this woman with the short statute of limitations. Lengthening it out now, retroactively, would cause some constitutional problems as the constitution prohibits ex-post facto laws. Also, if you recall, Bishop admitted to his small member so it isn't surprising that the woman wasn't sure if penetration (rape) had actually occurred.

I have to question the Utah prosecutor on this.

Such laws are generally considered to be applicable retroactively unless the Legislature states explicitly that they are not to be.

[_Tom]

Another KUTV story, this one featuring an interview with her bishop in the 1980s (it's worth watching the video):

http://kutv.com/news/local/woman-who-ac ... -3-decades

When you ask the former bishop of The Church of Jesus Christ Latter-day Saints, Ron Leavitt, about the recent allegations against former MTC mission president, he says he remembers them vividly.

“Oh heavens yes,” Leavitt said as he recalls what he was told in 1984.

Leavitt was a single ward president from 1979 to 1985 and said during his regular post-church meetings with parishioners, a woman told him that Joseph Bishop, a former president of the Missionary Training Center, had acted inappropriately with her.

“According to her he took (her) and I think another sister missionary down to the basement and showed them some pornography,” Leavitt explained.

When asked if he reported the incident to the police or the leadership of the LDS Church Leavitt said he did not. “I didn't think it had much credence. I wasn't going to risk sullying the reputation of someone based on that kind of a report,” Leavitt said.

The explosive allegations were first reported by MormonLeaks on Monday. The website released a 2 and a half hour audio tape that the woman says she recorded with Bishop. On the tape, the woman asked if he remembers allegedly raping her.

Bishop never admits to rape but does indicate that he may have been sexually inappropriate with at least one sister missionary during his time at the MTC, and apologized several times to the woman.

He also says on the tape that he has a sexual addiction. In a police report 3 months ago, he told police that he did ask the woman to show him her breasts, which according to the police report, she did.

Leavitt says he has heard from officials with the LDS Church at least 3 times in the last week and a half, about the allegations.