Utlimatum: shulem or me

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Re: Utlimatum: shulem or me

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Jersey Girl wrote:Open the front page of Telestial. Scroll down until you see a thread by grindael with him as author and my name as last respondent. It has a moved tag on it.

Then pick any post and gear up to relocate it. The moved tag option is (if memory serves) at the bottom where you choose a forum to relocate the post.

Move this one of mine to Prison and put a moved tag on it if you want to mess with it.


Weird. I’ve seen and used that option before, but don’t see it now. I’ll do some fiddling.

And, after further review, I agree that Telestial is the right call. It seems odd to have to expose this thread to the type of conduct NL was trying to avoid, but the description does say interpersonal conflict.

Thanks for the help.
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grindael wrote:I'm sorry but I thought Jersey was pretty spot on... she said Mormon Discussions is broken up into two sections:

Mormon Discussions (Celestial, Terrestrial, Telestial) and Non-Mormon Discussions (Paradise and Prison).



The conflicts between NL and Shulem happened in Terrestrial threads. My guess is that NL posted in Celestial and saw that Shulem had also posted there but didn't read his posts and thought the worst that he's randomly posting attack posts in the CK, got fed up and posted this ultimatum.

Like I said, perception is reality around here. Shulem's been giving him crap in Terrestrial, he goes up to CK to post, see's his screen name and basically says eff this. Makes his ultimatum post.

Put yourself in his place, he returns and his post is gone. He's already ticked to start with. He has to search his own posts or sift through forums until he finds it. Some posters automatically think their post was deleted wholesale. Either way, they're not going to like that they can't find their post, see it as dismissive, and get even more disgusted than when they posted the him or me ultimatum.

The moved post I mentioned above was one of yours.

It looks to me like your post originated in Terrestrial, was moved to Telestial with a moved tag on it, and then relocated to Prison (no one knows why) without a moved tag on it when it should have remained in Telestial to start with.

It's a little weird and confusing, and some folks are going to think they're being messed with.

NL already feels like he's being messed with and he apparently wanted a hearing about it. Then he has to search all over hell's half acre to find his post down here in no man's land where he's lost it's visibilty.

If a poster gets fed up and leaves, that's totally a personal choice. I just don't like to see posters get pissed off, throw up their hands and leave because the situation gets compounded when they feel they're being (unintentionally) jerked around when something could have been done to ease the tension a little.
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Re: Utlimatum: shulem or me

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Jersey Girl, which post of Grindael’s are you talking about?
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Re: Utlimatum: shulem or me

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The moved tag might be called a shadow tag. It's been a while since I've seen this mod screen, but sometimes they're called shadow tags as well.
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Has NL thrown up his hands and left? Did I miss something?
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Re: Utlimatum: shulem or me

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The post of grindael's that I referred to is down the front page of Telestial. Look for 3 posts in a row by grindael. It's the middle post that has the tag on it.

For some reason it was moved to Prison. I didn't read the entire thing to notice. But that is an example of the moved or shadow tag I mentioned.
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Re: Utlimatum: shulem or me

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Jersey Girl wrote:The post of grindael's that I referred to is down the front page of Telestial. Look for 3 posts in a row by grindael. It's the middle post that has the tag on it.

For some reason it was moved to Prison. I didn't read the entire thing to notice. But that is an example of the moved or shadow tag I mentioned.


Crap. It’s an interpersonal conflict in prison. I better wait on Shades.

If you want, I’d be happy to go back and check the log to see what happened to Grindael’s thread.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:SHULEM! SHULEM! SHULEM!

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I count four SHULEMS!
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Re: Utlimatum: shulem or me

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Nightlion:

You're aware that if you don't want to see Shulem's posts, you can click on his profile and then click "add foe," right?
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Re: Utlimatum: shulem or me

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Seems like the Celestial forum should be free of aggressive personal attacks since it is supposed to be the kinder and gentler forum. Nightlion should feel safe on the Celestial forum.
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