Guns don't kill people; people kill people?

[_DoubtingThomas]

How are AR-15 and other semi-automatic rifles used for good? Makes no sense.

Imagine if the British had outlawed muskets except for the royal red coat army. How would the revolutionary war have turned out if the colonists had to use pikes to fight the battles? Would you say the muskets used to fight the British in the revolutionary war were ued for a good thing?

We are no longer in the 18 century sir. Can you please tell me how are AR-15s good for 21st century American citizens?

[_subgenius]

We are no longer in the 18 century sir. Can you please tell me how are AR-15s good for 21st century American citizens?

I'm guessing they are good due because we have a 21st century givernment.
Kinda like how it's good we aren't still stuck using a quill and blotter....because our founding fathers never imagined an internet, so censorship has got be necessary, amiright?

[_DoubtingThomas]

I'm guessing they are good due because we have a 21st century givernment.
Kinda like how it's good we aren't still stuck using a quill and blotter....because our founding fathers never imagined an internet, so censorship has got be necessary, amiright?

I am not sure how an AR-15 can stop missiles. American civilians don't need AR-15 and other semi-automatic rifles.

[_Jersey Girl]

I am not sure how an AR-15 can stop missiles. American civilians don't need AR-15 and other semi-automatic rifles.

What weapons would you like to see banned? Will you list them?

[_Jersey Girl]

Is this a serious question?

How is a weapon, any weapon or object that can be used as a weapon, used for good?
You really don't know that answer?

What if I can prove to you guns do more good than harm?
Here you go:

200,000 up to 3 Million lives are SAVED by guns every year.
Only 40,000 die by guns from all causes, some 60% of which are Suicide.
Tell me, which is doing more good and which is doing more harm?

Now, multiply that, imagine most people had guns. Yes, more would die from all causes, but also FAR MORE would be saved.

My at minimum 200,000 beats your 40,000.
Gun control would kill my 200,000. But I thought you all wanted to save lives?

But where are you getting these numbers from? Do you have a source to share?

We've talked about this in the distant past, but...if it were a matter of me with a gun against an intruder, I doubt that I would be saved by a gun because I know good and well that the intruder could take me down in like 5 seconds flat.

Could I possibly take him down first? Only if I practiced regularly and even then, I doubt I'd have the cool enough to focus in the moment. Possibly if I were defending a child and I assessed that I could get off a clean shot without harming the child. Then maybe...

I don't know anyone who practices regularly enough to ensure precision under pressure.

So, when it comes to a potential home invasion (at least) I have to try to be shrewder than most.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Not only that but you have to actually go get the gun. Time is tickin' when da adrenaline is kickin'.

- Doc

[_Jersey Girl]

Not only that but you have to actually go get the gun. Time is tickin' when da adrenaline is kickin'.

- Doc

We have "discussions" about this from time to time over here. ;-) Listen, where we live we might have to wait for LE to get out here, but the thing is...ain't no one going to invade our home at night. First of all, you can't see the house at night. You can't see your way in and you can't see your way out so if you managed to get as far as the house you're a trapped rat.

Know what scares me? Town. I've house sat for family members in towns and having lived out in the sticks for so many years, apartment buildings freak me out. I'm used to living with wild animals, not people. I basically hate people.

So anyway yeah, get the gun, get the ammo, load it and then what? No one's coming here to start with. It's a bad fantasy. And what if the gun is locked up in a safe of some kind?

[_Kittens_and_Jesus]

Reasonable people asking ...

but that is the irony...the question and the argument is not reasonable, rather it is quite emotional instead. Otherwise there would be a greater outcry, protest, march, demonstration, and twitter-storm over how significantly more children die from texting while driving. And that is not say that both problems can not be addressed, but it is to say that the emotional outrage is unreasonably imbalanced.

Liberals don't own guns, conservatives are true patriots and the silent majority. Emotional outrage is inappropriate in the case of dead children. Think of the guns! For the love of God, won't someone think of the guns! They're innocent inanimate objects and can't speak for themselves!

My boorish and uncouth words above (which required no effort on my part) are beyond the worth of your poorly phrased appeal to pathos.

You have a frail ego born of a frail mind, yet you insist upon being smashed.

Freud would have spent his life watching you.

That's not a compliment.

[_Kittens_and_Jesus]

If you, an average Joe, decided you hate society and want to distribute vengeance how would you do it?

An AR15? (You can but it now)

A bomb (you can Google anything, but you failed at building a Lego castle)

Or some vague third choice? A knife? They always bring up knives. Maybe you choose to kill by texting while you're driving. That's always equated to gun violence. You can get some shopping done while you wait for arrest.

[_Xenophon]

Not only that but you have to actually go get the gun. Time is tickin' when da adrenaline is kickin'.

- Doc

So anyway yeah, get the gun, get the ammo, load it and then what? No one's coming here to start with. It's a bad fantasy. And what if the gun is locked up in a safe of some kind?

Clearly you guys are in need of a gun holster for your bed:



I'm the rootin'est tootin'est gun slinger this side of mattress firm, and don't you forget it.