The economic strategies in a trade war

[_MeDotOrg]

And speaking of the TPP

Trump Asked Top Aides to Review Whether to Rejoin TPP, Senator Says

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/arti ... ssion=true

There's nothing like studying after the test.

Yeah, when I heard about the TPP reversal it was a bit stunning. I think Trump is going to use the cover that this is good for his trade war against China, and will give farmers more export markets, which should help his concerns about holding onto the farm states in the fall midterms.

And, as you say, he should have known the value of the TPP before he started a trade war with China.

[_moksha]

Wonder how this will play out in the aisles of Walmart?

[_Hawkeye]

What Donald Trump doesn't understand about trade

Trump Does Not Understand Trade, Chapter XXXIII

Trump Doesn't Understand How Tariffs Work, Brags About Making Up Trade Stats

[_Markk]

Trump is correct that we are getting the short end of the deal in Trade, there is no argument there.

LOL Of course their is a lot of argument there. Certainly there are trade issues, China being one of them, but other countries also have issues with US protections on many products. The US has benefited a lot from trade, and not really getting the short end of the stick. You act like Americans from both parties have been too stupid to make good trades deals until Trump, but now because of Trump the US will be on the outside looking in on the TPP that is going to go ahead without them. Wonder why they all think trade is a good idea. Also, the TPP was a trade deal meant to counter China. That country you complain doesn't play by the rules.

Okay we agree there are trade issues.

I am not sure I complained about a specific country? I stated that we can't get a certain shingle which is not a complaint but a reality, and not really my problem but the architect's and the owner's, in fact when we heard about it we laughed.

Subgenius is a AIA...he will understand. I will simply send a RFI saying ..."Per the plans and specifications, Cedar shingles are not available at this time do to the current trade war...please advise." The Architect will then figure out how the owner wants to handle the issue.

You are certainly reading a lot into what I wrote. Go back and read my first post on this thread.

We have a large deficit, and it is rising from what I have read; which in turn means lost jobs in key areas like manufacturing. That shows we have been getting the short end of "deal. "

Trump may be a idiot, and off on several issues, as just about every politician in existence... but he is smart in playing to those who lost some of those jobs do to cheaper imported products...i.e. steel. Being pragmatic about trade, and having hopes that our trade policies create a more balanced system is not such a bad thing in my view.

In reading the responses here from others it does not really matter what I, or a few others here say, they will disagree just to disagree and act like they have all the answers and sit around and study the issues...I get that. If it was a democratic president, he/she would be a genius and a hero for addressing the deficit.

Let the P-hacking begin.

[_Markk]

Wonder how this will play out in the aisles of Walmart?

I am not sure how it is in other states, but here is So Cal we are becoming the 99 cent store capital of the world from what I see...it will be interesting.

[_Hawkeye]

We have a large deficit, and it is rising from what I have read; which in turn means lost jobs in key areas like manufacturing. That shows we have been getting the short end of "deal. "

Manufacturing jobs have been plummeting for decades and this has more to do with technology and less to do with trade agreements. So no, this trend doesn't say anything about getting a "short end" of any deal.

Trump... is smart in playing to those who lost some of those jobs do to cheaper imported products...i.e. steel.

Based on no evidence whatsoever. The only people benefiting from this are his friends who dumped millions in steel related stocks just before his tariff announcement.

Being pragmatic about trade, and having hopes that our trade policies create a more balanced system is not such a bad thing in my view.

But neither you nor Trump are being pragmatic. You're just showing you don't understand how trade works.

If it was a democratic president, he/she would be a genius and a hero for addressing the deficit.

You mean like you praised Obama for reducing the deficit at record rates? Oh wait....

[_schreech]

We have a large deficit, and it is rising from what I have read; which in turn means lost jobs in key areas like manufacturing. That shows we have been getting the short end of "deal. "

Trump may be a idiot, and off on several issues, as just about every politician in existence... but he is smart in playing to those who lost some of those jobs do to cheaper imported products...i.e. steel. Being pragmatic about trade, and having hopes that our trade policies create a more balanced system is not such a bad thing in my view.

Please explain how a trade deficit means or leads to a net job loss in “key” areas like manufacturing and how exactly does that mean we are getting the “short end of the “deal””. It sounds like you are just parroting our idiot Cheeto-in-chief and have no idea what you are talking about. Like none. I know we have established that you don’t understand basic economics but, dude, what you said above is so ignorant I don’t even know where to start. Maybe in your own words answer the two questions above and we can see just how bad it is.

Yes, Trump is an idiot and you are parroting some of the stupidest things he has said. There is a reason he is walking back his trade threats, someone finally told him he is an idiot but, still, people like you will blindly believe his ill conceived talking points. Please, read a book, watch the videos above, do something, anything, to educate yourself on the issues before typing.

[_MissTish]

Okay we agree there are trade issues.

I am not sure I complained about a specific country? I stated that we can't get a certain shingle which is not a complaint but a reality, and not really my problem but the architect's and the owner's, in fact when we heard about it we laughed.

Subgenius is a AIA...he will understand. I will simply send a RFI saying ..."Per the plans and specifications, Cedar shingles are not available at this time do to the current trade war...please advise." The Architect will then figure out how the owner wants to handle the issue.

You are certainly reading a lot into what I wrote. Go back and read my first post on this thread.

Ok, ill go back to your first post:

We have a project starting in which we are to replace the existing shake roof with new cedar shingles. I called the supplier for a quote, and was told that there is a "hold" on all orders, in that Canada is going to spike up prices on soft woods to combat the upcoming Tariff war

You stated that 'Canada' is raising the prices of these shingles. I'm not sure if you mean the country or the manufacturers, but leaving that aside please explain how Canada raising the FOB price of a shingle helps them in a trade war, when the increased duty imposed by the US is already increasing the LDP price for US purchasers of these shingles.

[_Markk]

Please explain how a trade deficit means or leads to a net job loss in “key” areas like manufacturing and how exactly does that mean we are getting the “short end of the “deal””. It sounds like you are just parroting our idiot Cheeto-in-chief and have no idea what you are talking about. Like none. I know we have established that you don’t understand basic economics but, dude, what you said above is so ignorant I don’t even know where to start. Maybe in your own words answer the two questions above and we can see just how bad it is.

Yes, Trump is an idiot and you are parroting some of the stupidest things he has said. There is a reason he is walking back his trade threats, someone finally told him he is an idiot but, still, people like you will blindly believe his ill conceived talking points. Please, read a book, watch the videos above, do something, anything, to educate yourself on the issues before typing.

Using steel as an example.

If we import more foreign steel rather than use our own manufactured steel...that means that miners, steel workers, and associated "trades" are not working in the abandoned factories.

If we import more foreign things like screws, nuts, and bolts, made with foreign products, then american workers are not producing these items.

In your own words...why is it wrong to balance this out?


You are quick to just spew hate, preach liberal talking points, and live a conservative life...where do you live again? And why don't you live in Torrance or Inglewood? My point is you demand answers from me, yet duck questions by me.

[_Markk]

Based on no evidence whatsoever. The only people benefiting from this are his friends who dumped millions in steel related stocks just before his tariff announcement

LOL...the evidence is that a egotistical reality TV star is President by pandering to people who have seen the jobs go elsewhere...for what ever reason. That may be the dumbest post I have seen in a long time.