Leftist Starbucks finds itself in the sites of liberal ire

[_Jersey Girl]

In EA's bizarro world men who weren't patrons, were trespassing, and belligerent have the right to be assholes on private property.

- Doc

Where were they belligerent, and Starbucks did not file trespassing charges.

They reportedly swore at the manager when she wouldn't let them use the restroom. My apparently invisible post about this is on page 3 of the thread quoted in an article from NPR.

[_EAllusion]

What's currently reported by the people involved, and corroborated by witnesses, is that they arrived, asked to use the bathroom, and were told that was for paying customers only. They then sat down and waited for their friend. The manager approached them and asked if they wanted to order anything. They said they were waiting for a friend and declined. The manager then called 911 right after. This took all of 2 minutes. The police arrived and immediately told them they need to leave. The men refused and tried to make their case that they were waiting for a friend by providing evidence that this was true. They were unfailingly calm throughout their interaction with the police that was captured on video. Their white friend arrived while this was happening and came across as mildly upset while explaining that it looked like racial discrimination. The police handcuffed the two black men, and took them to jail where they spent several hours. Several witnesses said that there were white people in the store, at the exact same time, who also weren't paying customers. They were even allowed to use the locked bathroom. Those statements are captured on video from when the incident happened.

This is a PR nightmare for Starbucks and they've acted as if all this is correct. They've been extremely apologetic while treating this straightforwardly as an unwanted act of racial discrimination by one of their employees.

DocCam describes this as them acting "belligerent," "trying to agitate", "trespassing, "complete and utter assholes," and acting with intent for "some sort of civil rights lawsuit in the hopes of getting a lot of free coffee." He describes people who criticize racial discrimination by businesses or people who support laws that make that illegal as behaving like Nazis.

[_EAllusion]

Usually what happens in racial cases like this is people try to drag up every single negative act the black people might've engaged in their entire lives to suggest whatever ill-treatment they received was comin' to them. Often, it's finding evidence they used marijuana at some point. Because smoking a joint proves you're a bad dude who probably was rightfully killed by the police.

While it's reported that one of the two people has been pulled over and had charges dismissed against him a bunch of times, suggesting racial profiling, nothing else has come up yet as far as I know. They just might be squeaky clean, because you'd expect that angle to have hit by now. I don't know. We'll see.

[_Hawkeye]

They reportedly swore at the manager when she wouldn't let them use the restroom. My apparently invisible post about this is on page 3 of the thread quoted in an article from NPR.

That's in the police report because that's what the manager said. But is that corroborated by any witnesses? Even in the video I see other customer standing up, absolutely stunned, confronting the police and insisting the men did nothing wrong whatsoever.

[_Hawkeye]

Usually what happens in racial cases like this is people try to drag up every single negative act the black people might've engaged in their entire lives to suggest whatever ill-treatment they received was comin' to them.

You mean like the Right Wing media focused on Trayvon Martin's "Purple Drank" or Michael Brown's strong armed robbery that probably never happened?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

In EA's world white people are guilty, and black people who trespass, are impolite, and not customers of an establishment are victims.



- Doc

They were not trespassing according to Starbucks who did not press that charge.

It's almost as if if you weren't reading the thread...



- Doc

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

DocCam describes this as them acting "belligerent," "trying to agitate", "trespassing, "complete and utter assholes," and acting with intent for "some sort of civil rights lawsuit in the hopes of getting a lot of free coffee." He describes people who criticize racial discrimination by businesses or people who support laws that make that illegal as behaving like Nazis.

I was making a reference to Marx, but I guess my sense of humor was too subtle.



- Doc

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Usually what happens in racial cases like this is people try to drag up every single negative act the black people might've engaged in their entire lives to suggest whatever ill-treatment they received was comin' to them. Often, it's finding evidence they used marijuana at some point. Because smoking a joint proves you're a bad dude who probably was rightfully killed by the police.

While it's reported that one of the two people has been pulled over and had charges dismissed against him a bunch of times, suggesting racial profiling, nothing else has come up yet as far as I know. They just might be squeaky clean, because you'd expect that angle to have hit by now. I don't know. We'll see.

That's literally not what's happening. At all.

“F” ing EA making up crap as usual so he can pass his totally-not-a-Marxist agenda off on all the crypto-racists who're acting all outraged at this.

Jesus.



- Doc

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I can't count the number of times I have sat in a Starbucks without purchasing anything or for 2 or 3 weeks of the year sitting in Starbucks with a drink I purchased some place else. I've never ever been asked to leave and the bathroom has no code.

Yes because the Starbucks in downtown Philadelphia is exactly whatever suburb you exist in, wearing your Uggs, and enjoying the soft waffs of pumpkin spice latte.



I love how the Whiteys on this thread want to generalize and paint with broad strokes, but point out Ajax's behavior without noticing the mote in their eye.

No one here knows how many black customers the manager served, how many white trespassers she's asked to leave, how many women she denied access to the bathroom, nor do they have any clue what her personal motivations were due to her experiences working in a downtown location and being beholden to company policy.

All the crypto-racists on this board are quick to point out how racist she or Starbucks were hoping to god to do race-penance for their own actions, lack of diversity in their personal lives, and lack of charity toward black people.

I know this is crazy. It's insanely privileged, but... BUY A CUP OF COFFEE.

- Doc

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

The Starbucks in Philadelphia has a policy against loitering. Loitering had been a significant problem at that location and the manager said that she had some tense moments with loiterers in the past, including one incident where someone chased her around the store after refusing to leave.

If the manager was just enforcing corporate policy, she's being targeted because she's White. If the manager were black none of this would've made the news, none of you crypto-racists would've batted an eye, and she'd still have her job.

She's gone and vilified because she's white. That's that. That's the truth and all you hypocrites know it. SHAME ON YOU ALL.

eta: I want to note that the two men who didn't leave probably did so because they're misogynists who wouldn't tolerate taking orders from a woman.

- Doc